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Old 16 January 2008, 14:00   #11
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Hi. I have run a few RIBs coded to Cat 3 (restricted) - these have all been via Mecal. Currently we run a 7.8m Ribcraft coded as such. The Cat 3 restriction bit limits us to 3 miles from a Safe Haven at night and requires that we have suitable lifejackets lights, spotlights etc for night time use.

There is no requirement for a sheltered wheelhouse/some sort of structure/cover etc.

You mention being interested in Cat 3 in relation to running the Advanced Course - I assume that you are aware though that as long as you operate within 3 miles of your NDP and 3 miles of land then the vessel does not need to be coded for this as it is covered under the RYA dispensation.

Hope this helps

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Old 16 January 2008, 17:52   #12
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Alan, not sure if this is clear from the thread - but where are you working? If you're in, or near, categorised waters that changes the requirements anyway.
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Seaskills, Working in the north sea(Moray Firth).
Paul, The problem is the boat will be further than 3 miles from NDP Safehaven by about 1 mile due to the lack of navigation marks in the area need to go further afield to get these! Would need minimum 4 miles from Safehaven.
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Old 17 January 2008, 07:22   #14
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Hi Alan. I know the area fairly well - I've run a number of courses and assessments up there (and due to be doing some instructor training up there in the near future). I've also inspected most of the existing RYA training centres up there over the past few years so I appreciate the problems you face.

Happy to help out if I can. Send me a PM if you want and I'll get back to you offline. If introductions to any of the local RYA guys would be useful to you - again, just PM me

Good luck with it all, it's not the easiest place to organise what you're planning - but the good news is that it is possible
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Red code for RYA training has changed/een clarified by MCA

Just for those looking back at the archive... the Red Code has been clarified by the MCA and boats used to RYA advanced training now need to be coded for the area of operation. There are also a number of RYA specific requirements. If you are planning to do this best to contact RYA for the latest set of requirements..

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Hi. I have run a few RIBs coded to Cat 3 (restricted) - these have all been via Mecal. Currently we run a 7.8m Ribcraft coded as such. The Cat 3 restriction bit limits us to 3 miles from a Safe Haven at night and requires that we have suitable lifejackets lights, spotlights etc for night time use.

There is no requirement for a sheltered wheelhouse/some sort of structure/cover etc.

You mention being interested in Cat 3 in relation to running the Advanced Course - I assume that you are aware though that as long as you operate within 3 miles of your NDP and 3 miles of land then the vessel does not need to be coded for this as it is covered under the RYA dispensation.

Hope this helps

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earlier post - "You mention being interested in Cat 3 in relation to running the Advanced Course - I assume that you are aware though that as long as you operate within 3 miles of your NDP and 3 miles of land then the vessel does not need to be coded for this as it is covered under the RYA dispensation."

Can we clarify this again as my belief was all advanced RYA powerboat courses need to be on coded vessels- have the RYA given more dispensation as Paul suggests above ?
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All our RIBs are Coded via Mecal to Cat 3 restricted. This allows operation upto 3 miles from a safe haven at night providing that suitable clothing and lifejackets with lights are worn and radio contact with the shore is maintained. No enclosure or barometer is required, but we do have to carry a search light, torch and life buoy lights in addition to the Cat 4 requirements.
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Ian

You're correct all advanced courses require a coded boat.

Paul's post above is from 2008 when the requirements were different.

I had to double check as I didn't think Paul would be giving out incorrect advice!

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You're correct all advanced courses require a coded boat.

Paul's post above is from 2008 when the requirements were different.

I had to double check as I didn't think Paul would be giving out incorrect advice!

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Cheers saw date Jan for Pauls Post and like you was surprised as another post had coding all over it, Never crossed my mind to look at date 2008!!
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Restricted Cat 3

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9m Ribcraft and 11m Humber, both twin engine set ups. 10 miles from safe haven at night, had to produce a lot of risk assessments for all eventualities, flotation suits / dry suits, life jackets with lights.
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