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Old 05 April 2012, 13:23   #21
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bit of a grey area the renewal of first aid certs(stcw 95 ) as there is no expiry on them !, mca website states also that there is no expiry ,as does fleetwood nautical college !
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Yes - a renewal would require you to confirm/prove/demonstrate suitable sea time. It's spread over 5 years, and it certainly isn't onerous. (150 days over 5 years).

If you don't meet the requirements, there is a route forwards if you can prove that you have a close involvement with managing commercial vessels, exact wording:
Stormforce - I'm not suggesting 150 days in five years working as a commercial skipper (or in the management of skippers) is an unreasonable expectation from the MCA/RYA; however I would have thought there were some people on here who would like to have the commercial endorsement either because they have their own boat coded but not in regular commercial use as a tax fiddle or because they do some ad-hoc skippering for someone else. Indeed in the current economic climate I can imagine people wanting to keep their options open for alternative sources of work if the day job dries up. However to actually do 30 days of commercial work each year is basically one day a week during the main boating season (when skippers and boats are likely to be in most demand) or a solid month of commercial boating... a bit more than most people's 'ad hoc'.

So bringing us back to John's question, I am surprised that to "renew" a commercial endorsement you don't need to prove 150 days service (could be tricky if your certificate is very out of date) and can just apply as though you were a new candidate. Do you see what I am getting at? if you are right then the 150 days in 5 yrs is irrelevant, as you can just reapply; I would have expected MCA/RYA to insist that the commercial exam was resat for someone trying to renew without adequate hours.
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however I would have thought there were some people on here who would like to have the commercial endorsement either because they have their own boat coded but not in regular commercial use as a tax fiddle or because they do some ad-hoc skippering for someone else.
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as a tax fiddle.


yew norty polfIsh

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gow an wosh yor mowth owt dis minit
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wots dat meen wiLkwart
I'm not sure you'll understand the concept:

Hould yer wheest = shut yer bake.

Roughly translates as: "I would appreciate it if you kept your opinion/commment to yourself at this juncture"
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Stormforce - I'm not suggesting 150 days in five years working as a commercial skipper (or in the management of skippers) is an unreasonable expectation from the MCA/RYA; however I would have thought there were some people on here who would like to have the commercial endorsement either because they have their own boat coded but not in regular commercial use as a tax fiddle or because they do some ad-hoc skippering for someone else. Indeed in the current economic climate I can imagine people wanting to keep their options open for alternative sources of work if the day job dries up. However to actually do 30 days of commercial work each year is basically one day a week during the main boating season (when skippers and boats are likely to be in most demand) or a solid month of commercial boating... a bit more than most people's 'ad hoc'.

So bringing us back to John's question, I am surprised that to "renew" a commercial endorsement you don't need to prove 150 days service (could be tricky if your certificate is very out of date) and can just apply as though you were a new candidate. Do you see what I am getting at? if you are right then the 150 days in 5 yrs is irrelevant, as you can just reapply; I would have expected MCA/RYA to insist that the commercial exam was resat for someone trying to renew without adequate hours.
I wouldn't worry, the RYA will probably turn a blind eye as they normally do and let anyone renew their ticket
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I'm not sure you'll understand the concept:

Hould yer wheest = shut yer bake.

Roughly translates as: "I would appreciate it if you kept your opinion/commment to yourself at this juncture"
[pedant]the correct spelling is "Haud yer Wheesht"[/pedant]

sorry for being pedantic - but I know that wiLlfish is very particular about spelling.
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I wouldn't worry, the RYA will probably turn a blind eye as they normally do and let anyone renew their ticket
So what you are saying then Tim is the RYA will let any monkey (that pays the renewal fee) renew. Shame on them I thought they were a professional body.
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