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Old 16 November 2011, 09:43   #1
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Preparing for Advanced C of C

Hi all, newbie here.

I am a Dinghy and Powerboat Instructor (both coastal) but based near Oxford at the moment.

I am preparing to take my Commercial Advanced exam at the end of the month.

I am a Day Skipper Sail, and I have taken the RYA Advanced Powerboat Course.

I am looking for a little guidance as to what I need to be swatting up on.

I have been going over day shapes, night lights, buoyage etc, as well as plotting a few course to steers and some pilotage plans.


So am I going over the right things? Is there anything else I should be working on? Last but not least any advice?

Thanks very much
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Is this the advance powerboat commercial exam?
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Old 16 November 2011, 13:19   #3
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Hi all, newbie here.

I am a Dinghy and Powerboat Instructor (both coastal) but based near Oxford at the moment.

I am preparing to take my Commercial Advanced exam at the end of the month.

I am a Day Skipper Sail, and I have taken the RYA Advanced Powerboat Course.

I am looking for a little guidance as to what I need to be swatting up on.

I have been going over day shapes, night lights, buoyage etc, as well as plotting a few course to steers and some pilotage plans.


So am I going over the right things? Is there anything else I should be working on? Last but not least any advice?

Thanks very much
Hi newbie!
Although it doesn't seem you are too new ref your Qualls
As a Powerboat Instructor your day shapes and bouyage shoud be well sorted
You should be able to plot an EP and DR should be no prob.
Don't forget 'variation' some peeps do in the 'heat of the moment'!
Some of the theory is 'tick box' multi question stuff, so that should be no prob ref your experience

You have done the 'Advanced Course' so the night time stuff should not be a Prob
But if you have not done a lot of night time 'miles' be careful when you do your passage plan , to get the flashing sequences correct in case that stuff confuses you

Make sure you know how to distinguish and point out the differences and what they mean etc between 'isophase', occulting, group occulting' etc
It may be that you have to take the helm or the nav bit, half way through the night time passage
So make sure you know where you are twofold
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You know where you are ref 'Your Plan' and if the case may be with 'other's' plan, if yer gets me drift
You may be asked to be the Navigator or helm bod half way through the 'passage' (pends on how many peeps are doing the Exam) so you need to know where you are at that stage to pass on the info to the next helm or navigator.
You may need to prepare a 'Safety Brief' .
Some people find this a hard thing to do in front of 'Peers' if not used to doing so
Your boat handling will be ok I imagine
You won't be asked to do anything 'unusual'!
Chill ----- and as well as---listen carefully as to what is asked of you
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Is this the advance powerboat commercial exam?
Yer got me thinking?
I thought it was!
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Yes it is the advanced powerboat commercial exam!

kawasaki thanks very much for that! Really useful.
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Safety briefing- know what MCA standard brief shows
http://www.dft.gov.uk/mca/mcga07-hom...s_annex_12.htm

demonstrate you are in charge- i.e ask others if they understand and also what you wish them to do and make sure they understand before moving.
MOB methods
Weather charts- what do they mean and what isobars can show
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kawasaki Really useful.
Feck me
That's a Compliment!
swmbo reckons I,m a useless terwat
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As Kwackers and Ian have said all I would add is .
You will be expected to find either a unlit mark or x mark the spot on the chart . Make sure you use all or as many methods of navigation to find said place if you over rely on one ie speed and distance then your chances of finding it are greatly reduced.

I would recommend a work up prior to the exam as the greatest failure rate comes from those who just jump in and do the exam , with a work up you can iron out any weak areas and perhaps see things done in a different way that you use

Good luck and let the forum know how you get on.
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The full syllabus of the commercial exam is in the back of the powerboat logbook at least that will give you a comprehensive list of what you will be examined on.
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Has everyone heard about the new addition to the commercial exam coming in next year? In fact all of us that already have the cert will be required to do it as well.
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