PPR for commercial endorsement

[tim griffin]

How many are going to do the new PPR for your commercial endorsement .
Just been recognised as a RYA centre able to offer this so happy to give help and advice .

Cheers
Tim

[hamster]

Got letter through today from RYA telling me my commercial endorsement expires in a few weeks so I need to do it.

Just need to decide who to pay my money to.

Need to get my ml5 done as well. How much cash do doctors take the satisfaction of taking from you for the pleasure of their stamp and signature these days?

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[tim griffin]

Hi Graham
Plenty of centres to choose from price is the same so choice is yours .Like I said I am happy to offer it or just give advice.
I paid £95 for my last medical.
Tim

[Stormforce]

Here at Stormforce we've put quite a lot of effort into developing support for the PPR Course (including building a bespoke website with FAQs and a regularly updated blog - http://www.ppr-course.com) as we think we're ideally placed to offer support for it.

It's an interesting course to take, as it's largely focused on changing behaviour through understanding, rather than specifically imparting knowledge. This means that a lot of time is spent locating documents online and then searching through them, the idea being that whilst mariners might not know the legal 'ins and outs' of every situation, they will at least know where to look!

A couple of the Stormforce Crew were involved in the development of the course, and have been providing feedback on the pilot and development versions. Doug, our Principal, and Adie, our Chief Instructor, have both completed the course and spent a fair amount of their time going over and over it, ready for what we hope are a few enquiries.

We're going to be doing some very special offers to co-incide with the PPR Launch on the 2nd April - this won't interest you Tim (!), but Graham (hamster), please give us a call and we'll discuss why we think you should nominate us as your centre! Your money actually goes straight to the RYA, but nominated centres do get a small cut.

For anyone else who needs this course, would like their questions answered, or indeed would like to do a course that leads to a commercial endorsement, you can click here to book now, call us on 02380 231122, or e-mail us on nav@stormforce.biz.

Safe and Legal Ribbing,

The Stormforce Team

[C2 RIBS]

[National safety]

Originally Posted by tim griffin

Hi Graham
Plenty of centres to choose from price is the same so choice is yours .Like I said I am happy to offer it or just give advice.
I paid £95 for my last medical.
Tim

I paid £65 for my medical about 4 weeks ago. I did have a bit of argument with them as they wanted to charge me a £169 for the ML5 they told me this was a standard price. Even £65 is expensive for 20 minute blood pressure/eyesight and a questionaire!!!

[wiLlfish]

Originally Posted by C2 RIBS

[Rogue Wave]

I just paid 150 for my UKOG topside Medical and I asked the Doc for one to cover the Woodentops (Norwedian) sector and he whipped out another piece of paper, signed it and stung me for another 75 quid. Ouch

last ML5 cost me 75 quid my doc said it was what he charged for HGV medicals

[Rogue Wave]

Originally Posted by tim griffin

How many are going to do the new PPR for your commercial endorsement .
Just been recognised as a RYA centre able to offer this so happy to give help and advice .

Cheers
Tim

what dates are you running this (before 24/04/12)

[alant1]

Originally Posted by National safety

I paid £65 for my medical about 4 weeks ago. I did have a bit of argument with them as they wanted to charge me a £169 for the ML5 they told me this was a standard price. Even £65 is expensive for 20 minute blood pressure/eyesight and a questionaire!!!

Only costs me about £60 for an ENG1.

[nikster]

Ive just renewed my ENG 1 medical which is STCW / with a MCA doctor and that was only £80 - it lasts 24 months.....! It includes, Blood Pressure, Urine, Hearing, Eyesight and a few other pieces..... it is internationally recognised, and is v useful if your doing cross channel and got into any sticky situations...

[Ruari 29]

Tip for anyone doing the PPR, if you know the 148 pages of MGN 280 you be fine.
And do the mock test gives a good idea of what there looking for.

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[Doug Stormforce]

Originally Posted by alant1

Only costs me about £60 for an ENG1.

Alan I thought the ENG1 price was laid down by someone or other in authority rather than being left up to individual doctors?

[alant1]

Originally Posted by Doug Stormforce

Alan I thought the ENG1 price was laid down by someone or other in authority rather than being left up to individual doctors?

Not sure about any set fee Doug, but simply pay what he demands. Cost seems similar to the ML5, but done more often.

[Stormforce]

Originally Posted by alant1

Not sure about any set fee Doug, but simply pay what he demands. Cost seems similar to the ML5, but done more often.

On Doug's instructions, we've done a bit of research into this in the office. The fee is laid down in Law by the Merchant Shipping (Fees) regulations, and can be found in Part 3.

It's currently £80, but that is a maximum limit; there's nothing to stop a Doctor charging less, they're just not allowed to charge more.

You can find the relevant legislation here: The Merchant Shipping (Fees) Regulations 2006

[tim griffin]

Originally Posted by Ruari 29

Tip for anyone doing the PPR, if you know the 148 pages of MGN 280 you be fine.
And do the mock test gives a good idea of what there looking for.

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RYA have produced a book PPR G105 very good that accompanies the course and great for those of you who get frustrated by websites with pop up menus and drop down pages.
Congrats Ruari on getting a great score on the test by the way.
Cheers
Tim

[Stormforce]

Originally Posted by tim griffin

RYA have produced a book PPR G105 very good

Definitely agree with you on this Tim. We had a chap telephone us on Monday who wanted to do the PPR course, but struggled with reliability on his internet connection (he lives on one of the Orkney Islands).

He's in the process of coding a boat, so is familiar with MGN280, bought G105 (Commercial Regulations - Small Vessels) from the RYA shop, and as soon as he signed up to the PPR course, he went straight through the mock papers and into the exams - 100% on both.

Ideal for those who are put off by negotiating the internet, or want to do a bit of reading around the subject. You can get the new book direct from the RYA:



Buy RYA Commercial Regulations - Small Vessels at the RYA Shop

[tim griffin]

Originally Posted by Stormforce

Definitely agree with you on this Tim. We had a chap telephone us on Monday who wanted to do the PPR course, but struggled with reliability on his internet connection (he lives on one of the Orkney Islands).

Got a client in Uganda with the same thing, book on it's way to him as I type.
Tim

[SDGANDER]

So... You can sit an unsupervised online exam and there is a book available endorsed by the examining body available.

There are no Grandfather rights and only selected MCA tickets qualify for an exemption

But it's not a money making exercise? I believe them - not!

SDG

[Doug Stormforce]

Originally Posted by SDGANDER

So... You can sit an unsupervised online exam and there is a book available endorsed by the examining body available.

There are no Grandfather rights and only selected MCA tickets qualify for an exemption

But it's not a money making exercise? I believe them - not!

SDG

Oh those evil people, producing a book that might help students learn the subject!

There are no grandfather rights, why would there be? It's because most grandfathers don't know this stuff that it has been added to the commercial endorsement process for everyone.

And yes selected MCA CoCs do qualify for an exemption, guess which ones?. It's the ones that have covered this already.