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Old 24 November 2007, 12:55   #11
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KISS doesn't that mean Keep it Simple, Stupid The Stupid person being the one overcomplicating the issue It sound silly but for me it's important.

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[QUOTE=Polwart;228181] Steve - don't invent/reinvent or needlessly use any ackronyms and you will be fine! I am not a PBI but have a fair bit of training experience ackronyms are used to either help a trainer who can't remember the points or to help students memorise facts/lists for exams and NOT to help students understand

Absolute rubbish... note the the words "i am not a PBI..." Says it all.

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I think Polwart's right, people hide behind Jargon and TLA's (that's triple letter acronyms to the less clever) to make themselves appear more erudite and to attempt to impress others.

It's the difference between telling your Mum to roll 10db of the 8k eq or just saying turn the treble down a bit. I know which one is less confusing

How did you do Steve BTW
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so how was it?

how did it go, ?
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Old 26 November 2007, 01:36   #15
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How did it go? Did you do it at Pass Menai?

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Old 26 November 2007, 03:11   #16
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Thanks for everyone’s help and everyone asking how it went.

Did the talk yesterday, and it went well – I had good feedback from the group and from the trainer – Just there was a lot of “umms” in there

I did a small “flip” presentation on A3 paper that I talked through - another comment was that people sat at the back could not see it very easily.

The subjects I covered were
Weather
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Limitations of vessel and crew
Buoys and navigation
Launching and recovery
Communications afloat
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This was the only thing I was really worried about – as I my driving is ok (Not to sound big headed) but I am out every weekend.

I am doing the training at Hollingworth Lake Water Activity Centre, its split over two weekends (24th & 25th Nov and 1st & 2nd Dec)

Not at Pass Menai – But I have some friends on this – I would not have minded doing this one to get the costal.


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Steve - don't invent/reinvent or needlessly use any ackronyms and you will be fine! I am not a PBI but have a fair bit of training experience ackronyms are used to either help a trainer who can't remember the points or to help students memorise facts/lists for exams and NOT to help students understand

Absolute rubbish... note the the words "i am not a PBI..." Says it all.

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Steve, glad to hear you got on well.

Just to clarify whilst what I said does apply to unnecessary ackronyms / jargon - there are certainly some which are necessary. I was actually meaning Mneumonics - which in my opinion are often over used in classroom situations. There are a very small number of mneumonics which are actually add to understanding.

...IMHO so long as you are enjoying yourself training, keep an open mind to advice from people who have sat through your or others courses, or who have expertise from other fields you can only continue to develop...

I sometimes "emm" a lot when delivering pre-prepared presentations. How much depends on the audience and level of practice (bizarely it seems to be more likely if I overrehearse!). It takes a conscious effort to avoid it. Following someone else's advice I practice avoiding your "habits" not just when presenting - so e.g. when you leave a voice mail message etc - it seems to help...
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This is a practical course so keep it practical where you can.
Get the students to be "hands on" as much as you can with you talks.

I always work by this:-

"what I see I forget, what I hear I remember, what I do I understand"

Best of luck for the second weekend.
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Well done!

If you want do come and do any practical co teaching on the coast, just drop me a line.

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Thanks for the offer!

One thing I would like to do is get my certificate coastally endorsed? What’s the best route to follow to get this completed?

This would also enable me to get my Intermediate and Advanced tickets.
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