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Old 13 August 2005, 18:12   #1
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PB2 commercial

I was talking to the FRC (fast resue craft) drivers yesterday and I was enquiring as to what training they had as in general they had PB2 with a commercial endorsement.

How do they get these!

do they have to take an exam


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Old 13 August 2005, 19:08   #2
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Stu the RYA website has some information, worth doing a search on commerical on the site.

http://www.rya.org.uk/training/quali...tentId=3630691

and have a read of this whilst your at it.

http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/mcga-se...article_10.htm
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I see you can get the PBL2 commercially endorsed - does that mean I don't need to do the advanced???
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Commercial Endorsement - PB2

As it stands you can get PB2 Commercially Endorsed but do bear in mind that that this affects where you can operate. PB2 plus “12 months relevant experience” is only valid for vessels operating under Cat 6 coding – “Area Category 6 - to sea, within 3 miles from a nominated departure point(s) named in the certificate and never more than 3 miles from land, in favourable weather and daylight;”

PB2 is often the choice of skippers operating in the Solent but realistically has no value beyond some fairly limited areas of operation – and frankly nor should it.

Stuart: Apply for PB2 CE in exactly the same way as Advanced – via the RYA, Medical etc etc. Were the FRC guys operating within the above definitions?

Codprawn: Do remember though that any Advanced Certificate (issued post 31st Dec 04) cannot now be commercially endorsed – see here - http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread....1102#post71102

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Old 15 August 2005, 16:35   #5
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Paul the contents of my discussions with te FRC drivers after he had harpooned my 12 mtr for the nth time was "would you like me to teach you how to drive that before you puncture my tubes " perhaps something similar with a few adjectives thrown in. He then promptly told me he had a commercially endorsed PB2 which got me wondering !

I have to agree with you on the value of the qualification.
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Old 17 August 2005, 06:36   #6
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As it stands you can get PB2 Commercially Endorsed but do bear in mind that that this affects where you can operate. PB2 plus “12 months relevant experience” is only valid for vessels operating under Cat 6 coding – “Area Category 6 - to sea, within 3 miles from a nominated departure point(s) named in the certificate and never more than 3 miles from land, in favourable weather and daylight;”
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I brought this up at our safety meeting questioning the qualifications suitability ( just call me mr popular) and was shown a consultation document produced with the MCA and the MCA accepted this qualification was acceptable as the Boats never operate more than 1 mile from the mothership, and never in more than a 3 metre sea, In fact it was the MCA who suggested this qualification be used!

The company I work for is incredibly safety concious and does everything by the book, But I am looking for loopholes!
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Hi Stu,
THe FRC course that WG used to send people to for working on the ships was an stcw approved FRC with a PBL2 commercail as a side issue.
The Scottish course was darn hard and they guys how had been on it were good, but the guys who had done the "same" course in the Gulf of Mexico were F@@King dangerous, I watched a cheif officer drive an FRC into a 120m long supply boat at ~10 Knots in a T bone position. Even the Skipper who was also a master Mariner as was the chief, was embarrased by this action by a fellow proffesional mariner.

NB must not post after a few to many Stellas on empty tum!!
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FRC -Job availability?

Does an APB comm endorsed cover requirements for these jobs? & how do you find them?
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Rogue,

I was also under the impression that you needed more than a PB2 (CE) to run an FRC off a mothership!!

Like Alant1, I'd also be interested in where people find out about commercial work like this.........

Where do they advertise for crew - or is it word of mouth?

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As soon as I am ready to retire I will be only too happy to give you the information! Basically it's word of mouth and I owe someone on this forum big time
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