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Old 26 March 2011, 14:03   #31
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The lifeboat/helicopter remain the same, New technology means if we are in distress he communications systems, DSC, AIS, plotters which give us a lat/lon are all things which remove the human element from getting the whole rescue started. It aids everyone to be far more efficient. There was never an intention to diminish the human element by those that actually enact the rescue at the chalk face

My mistake to muddy the waters with the MCA closures, Please ignore the comment

Anyway back to the actual thread - There will be those that agree that when water temperature is 10 deg or below then 'suitable drysuit, immersion suitor other suitable clothing should be aboard the boat
There are others that disagree with the 10 degree suggested ruling on grounds that MCA have not provided any evidence to suggest that abandonment to water is as frequent in small comercial vessels. Many commercial operators believe abandonment to liferaft is a better alternative. I just happen to fall into the latter camp.
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The issue was raised at the Working Group meeting on 30th March. There was a great deal of debate. The issue is on the agenda for further meetings
Thanks to all who wrote to Mark Towl.

To clear the odd issues which have come to light.
Legislation is never retrospective therefore if you are currently coded the 'new' regulations won't apply to your RIB
Should you upgrade your commercial RIB to a new build then the RIB will need to comply with the new code once statute.
Many responsible operators voluntarily upgrade their equipment to comply with new legisation as a matter of course.

A request to the MAIB to conduct a search involving small commercial craft and entering the water highlighted 64 cases in the last 6 years. There were 3 cases which could be deemed relevant. In two instances the occupants evacuated to liferaft.
In the third case the owner of a commercial charter vessel - a catamaran which was sinking elected to climb on the roof of the vessel despite there being a liferaft available. The reason, the rescue helicopter was nearby. When the winchman came down the wire the skipper entered the water and swam to the winchman.

There were no instances where passengers entered the water instead of using the available liferaft.
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Old 28 December 2011, 19:32   #33
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I dont know where things are in relation to this posting now but i would say that the regulation should read as follows:
If a persons work or activities onboard a vessel increase the possibillity of falling overboard when water temp is bellow 10deg C then at that point suits will be worn (not carried onboard but actually worn)
This should be addressed within the risk assesment part of the safety briefing?
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