Larger then 12 passenger RIB?

avb3 · 20 July 2009, 23:33

I am trying to source a RIB to be used as a passenger ferry that is larger than 12+2. Is there such a creature, or are there reasons that a RIB does not come in a larger size?

Thanks!

codprawn · 21 July 2009, 04:24

Plenty bigger - the main reason for 12 passengers are stupid laws and regulations!!!

http://www.parkerribs.com/index.php?...04&model_id=14

Here is one for 22 passengers.

Delta do some pretty big RIBs

http://www.deltapower.co.uk/support/rescuecraft.html

Is 19m or 62' big enough for you???

Petrov · 21 July 2009, 06:58

A Ring Powercraft 13m with seatings for 22.

Andre · 21 July 2009, 09:57

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Originally Posted by avb3

I am trying to source a RIB to be used as a passenger ferry that is larger than 12+2. Is there such a creature, or are there reasons that a RIB does not come in a larger size?

Thanks!

How many passengers do you want to carry? if our Parker 12 mtr Interceptor is too small we still have a 16 mtr Interceptor which can be adapted to carrying passengers.

Doug Stormforce · 21 July 2009, 14:12

The reason for 12 is to do with the MCA coding for commercial use

Vessels can be coded for more than 12 passengers but require more extensive coding and higher qualified skippers

avb3 · 21 July 2009, 14:51

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Originally Posted by Doug Stormforce

The reason for 12 is to do with the MCA coding for commercial use

Vessels can be coded for more than 12 passengers but require more extensive coding and higher qualified skippers

I assume you are talking about a British flagged boat. Our operations will be in the Caribbean, although one of the islands is still a British colony, so MCA may apply (we are in the process of determining that right now).

Andre · 21 July 2009, 15:03

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Originally Posted by avb3

I assume you are talking about a British flagged boat. Our operations will be in the Caribbean, although one of the islands is still a British colony, so MCA may apply (we are in the process of determining that right now).

this is our Parker 900Baltic operating from the Isle of Grenada 12 passengers and a 2 man crew

http://www.grenadaseafaris.com/

engines: twin Mercury Optimax 225

avb3 · 22 July 2009, 04:44

Thanks for all the replies.

I should probably been more specific. I am looking for an enclosed (hardtop or softtop, either is OK) unit, with standard chair seating. This is intended to be used as an inter-island passenger ferry/taxi, so an "adventure" type boat is not appropriate.

Andre · 22 July 2009, 07:21

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Originally Posted by avb3

Thanks for all the replies.

I should probably been more specific. I am looking for an enclosed (hardtop or softtop, either is OK) unit, with standard chair seating. This is intended to be used as an inter-island passenger ferry/taxi, so an "adventure" type boat is not appropriate.

you most probably want something like this one

www.awesomeadventure.com.au

hobbit555 · 22 July 2009, 18:54

carrying more than 12 passengers you will be classed as a passenger ship under International Marine organisation (IMO) rules. as far as i am aware there are very few flags (which would be the local certifying authority,as the MCA are in the UK) that have special rules for domestic passenger ships like the UK does (i.e classes 4,5,6) The amount of gear you would have to carry to satisfy the certification requirements would not make sense financially let alone the space you would require.

codprawn · 22 July 2009, 20:52

Come on - the Carribean is known for it's laid back attitude - and greasing the right palms is not unheard of...............

avb3 · 24 July 2009, 02:58

Well... it's time to re-think this whole over 12+2 size thing.

1. Although I have spent significant time in the North Pacific waters skippering a private 28' fishing boat, none of it counts for commercial time. It would appear it would take me 2 years to get a skippers license.

2. Most Caribbean jurisdictions have virtually the same rules as the MCA (see http://www.stkittsnevisregistry.net/...SCV%20Code.pdf) which is the safety code for passenger boats there. (so much for lax rules)

I am not sure if a business model can be developed where I actually have to hire a skipper.

Damn!

Doug Stormforce · 25 July 2009, 10:30

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Originally Posted by avb3

Although I have spent significant time in the North Pacific waters skippering a private 28' fishing boat, none of it counts for commercial time. It would appear it would take me 2 years to get a skippers license.

I think you have been miss informed. Which skipper's ticket are you after. All of the following will recognise skippering time on board a private boat

Advanced certificate of Competence
Coastal Skipper Certificate of Competence
Yachtmaster Offshore / Ocean Certificate of Competence

If you want to drive somethig over 200 tonnes then you will need commercial qualifying sea time, which is not unreasonable wjhen you consider a vessel that size may have tenders bigger than your fishing boat.