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Old 24 June 2008, 12:46   #21
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Why does he need to be? It's not like he's blatantly advertising his charter business on here. There are plenty of people on this forum who have their business name in their signature. My understanding was that people only needed trade membership if they posted blatant messages publicising their business....
So what do you call this and your webcam link to your site that surprise surprise is for a rib charter business

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Old 24 June 2008, 13:01   #22
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Blimey what a load of cats on here I was only asking to give YOU LOT some work!
I wont bother in future will go to those that bothered to answer direct to me without a load of bitching .
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So how do you get experience without spending time on the job

If you are so good why don't you run your marine company full time then you could be even more proud!

150 pouns per hour is a good rate especially if it's a 5 hour charter. But this job isn't a 150 pounds an hour job. It's a three hundred pound job which should take about 2 hours does that include planning, mobilisation, safety planning, furnishing the production company's admin requirements, and of course the safety briefing

If you do manage to get all this done within your 2 hour window what are you gonna do with your boat for the rest of the day.

I don't like working for cheap, but if you need or want work for that kinda money you go for it you won't find me undercutting you
Not forgetting the inevitable risk assessment!

I must admit when I made the comment about the price it was concerning chartering a RIB in and paying two crew for a day (rather than 2 hours as it would take all day with all the fannying about!
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Old 03 July 2008, 10:43   #24
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If you house was on fire, god forbid, you would not care if they were part timers or whole timers would you? hell I know I would not!

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so would I ......what happens if the part timers only do morning shifts and my house fire was in the afternoon
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There are a huge number of part timers, in many walks of life, that are as good and if not better than those who do a role full time. Just look at firefighters and our very good men and women of the RNLI, how many of them work in boating full time any more? not very many yet they are, without doubt, one of if not the best marine resuce services in the world.

If you house was on fire, god forbid, you would not care if they were part timers or whole timers would you? hell I know I would not!

Its not about how much time you spend doing something its how good you are at it.

Might be true for your business but not universal in it's application, particularly retained firefighters! Their attitude & enthusiasm if often superior, yet their skills & knowledge are not.
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Might be true for your business but not universal in it's application, particularly retained firefighters! Their attitude & enthusiasm if often superior, yet their skills & knowledge are not.
But isn't that more about skills retention rather than paid / unpaid status?

You could put full time paid firefighters in every rural station, but due to the level of calls (on the job experience) their skillset would be less than a firefighter in a busy city station.

Probably the same is true for paramedics in London compared to Isles of Scilly!

It's one of my big gripes with the current "I've got the certificate" culture - courses and training exercises are no substitute for real-life shouts, and it's those that build experience.

Going back to the original debate, it is highly offensive that someone thinks they are more "professional" than others simply because they do an activity all the time. I've known brilliantly professional part-timers in all areas - keen, experienced, courteous and able to bring their multi-role skills into a new area, same as I've known thoroughly cretinous full-timers - jaded, arrogant, unskilled and with all the customer focus of an angry warthog.
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Spot on Havener

Cos if we went by what Paramedic said this would lead us to think all RNLI crews are no good, likewise our Coastguards where as I for one think we have one of the worlds best maritime rescue services.
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Totally agree Jon, although at the risk of waking Fred Drift I would say that our position with regard to Coastguard co-ordination skills is slipping.

The guys on the ground are as good as ever, and the watch managers likewise, but the past few years' policy of allowing the "assistant" grades to progress is starting to show. Not because they don't know the procedures, but because they simply don't have the seatime experience and knowledge, especially with regard to commercial shipping. I'm finding that we're getting far more "very basic" questions asked which you don't get from the French or Swedish, simply because they've worked in the marine environment and our lower grades haven't.

Rant over ! - see you at the boat show no doubt.
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They will need coded Ribs and qualified skippers, and that isn't going to happen at £300 a go!

They WILL be breaking the law if they don't!
I don't know what you're charging for a RIB for two hours but I'm surprised you get any business!! I know plenty of companies that would do 2 hours for less then £300.
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