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Old 22 June 2008, 21:17   #11
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Its not about how much time you spend doing something its how good you are at it.

I run my marine company part time but I know we are as good and in a lot of cases far better than many who do it full time and we are proud of that fact and strive to ensure we stay that way.

And getting back to the thread, IMHO 150 per is not a bad rate, this would cover fuel, wages, wear and tear and include the other hidden cost of running a boat business. If you do the sums right this sort of rate works well.
So how do you get experience without spending time on the job

If you are so good why don't you run your marine company full time then you could be even more proud!

150 pouns per hour is a good rate especially if it's a 5 hour charter. But this job isn't a 150 pounds an hour job. It's a three hundred pound job which should take about 2 hours does that include planning, mobilisation, safety planning, furnishing the production company's admin requirements, and of course the safety briefing

If you do manage to get all this done within your 2 hour window what are you gonna do with your boat for the rest of the day.

I don't like working for cheap, but if you need or want work for that kinda money you go for it you won't find me undercutting you
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Old 23 June 2008, 04:09   #12
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Well like everthing in life the more you do it the better you get but you don't have to do it full time to become good.

Whilst I would love to do it full time I also really enjoy my other job and with good time management do both to a high standard, no pun intended!

Ok so its two hours work at 150 per hour, if it local to you and you have a good brief from the persons chartering you its no going to be rocket science. It amazes me how protective some people get in this industry and try to make it sound like a black art and to be honest its not!
Also two hours work maybe all some companies have in the diary for that day so what would you prefer? two hours work at the said 150 per hour or the boat to lay idle and not earn anything? Even laying not working the boat is coasting you money.

Imho they may only want 2 hours on the water but in most cases, as you pointed out, any half decent company needs time before and time after any charter. This is where good negotiation skills come in to play.

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Old 23 June 2008, 10:42   #13
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1 a: of, relating to, or characteristic of a profession b: engaged in one of the learned professions c (1): characterized by or conforming to the technical or ethical standards of a profession (2): exhibiting a courteous, conscientious, and generally businesslike manner in the workplace

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Nuff said...!
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Old 23 June 2008, 19:24   #14
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Whilst I would love to do it full time I also really enjoy my other job and with good time management do both to a high standard, no pun intended!
Rollucks

To my dying breath I would not believe this is the reason. I'd believe it's because it won't pay your mortgage more like!.

Any way the thread served it's purpose quite well for yu as you are able to plug your wonderful boat and your wonderful self
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I remember rates of pay being discussed before and did a quick search- here are the results

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in a croweded marketplace you get what you can. I don't like to go out for less than 125 a day cos I am hardworking and can entertain the customers quite well
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I know of a powerboat experience company that I used to work for that pays about 15 an hour and they asked me to find them some new drivers. If you are interested in talking to them I'll happily forward your number to them if you PM it to me.
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Do you think they'd be looking for change out of a hundred quid. We have a fleet tender that will do that support job
So if we do the sums 100 a day for the boat and 15 and hour for the driver then a 2 hr job is 130 plus fuel plus wear and tear plus admin, and the boats has been paid for for the whole day.
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Old 24 June 2008, 05:45   #17
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Rollucks not sure we asked what kept your ears apart

To my dying breath I would not believe this is the reason. I'd believe it's because it won't pay your mortgage more like!. well I hope you dont die to soon Stu, would miss you out look on life and you wit and banter. But hand on heart it would pay the bills but would miss the cut and thrust of the full time job.

Any way the thread served it's purpose quite well for yu as you are able to plug your wonderful boat and your wonderful self
Why thank you!
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Old 24 June 2008, 09:28   #19
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Why does he need to be? It's not like he's blatantly advertising his charter business on here. There are plenty of people on this forum who have their business name in their signature. My understanding was that people only needed trade membership if they posted blatant messages publicising their business....
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Old 24 June 2008, 09:53   #20
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Cheers Tim but should get round to re-newing.....yes re-newing my trade membership.

Job for tonight me thinks.
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