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Old 21 January 2006, 18:04   #1
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equipment needed to code a rib...

hello all, hoping to sponge off the wealth of knowledge here!

how do you go about coding a rib?
the different categories, what do they allow you to do?
what equipment is needed, cost?
how do you go about fitting eg a life raft into a 6.3m ocean pro?
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Old 22 January 2006, 08:19   #2
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look on the MCA website for this dic

mgn 280 (m)


it will tell you the equipment you need and any will hightlight things to check on the boat to be compliant - e.g fuel lines
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Old 22 January 2006, 15:55   #3
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I have found the YDSA code to be the most popular with Ribs doen here. Check out there website for a surveyor after you have had a look at the MCA

cost of the kit will be about 2 k but varies with how many people you code the boat for. (I believe you can only code for the number of seats on the boat)

You mount your liferaft either inside if it's a valise or on a cradle if it's a canister.

It's not too difficult to get a boat coded providing you do the preperation.
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Old 22 January 2006, 16:29   #4
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I have found the YDSA code to be the most popular with Ribs doen here. Check out there website for a surveyor after you have had a look at the MCA

cost of the kit will be about 2 k but varies with how many people you code the boat for. (I believe you can only code for the number of seats on the boat)

You mount your liferaft either inside if it's a valise or on a cradle if it's a canister.

It's not too difficult to get a boat coded providing you do the preperation.
Ocean Dynamics boats often have no seats - everyone sits on the tubes holding onto central rails - don't seem to be any probs there.

Apparently you are ok as long as there are sufficient handholds???
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Old 22 January 2006, 19:17   #5
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i read on another thread that it may be that when coding a rib, it restricts it to a certain area, is this the case if a boat is to be used for private use and still insured, say does a coded rib only apply when fee paying passengers are involved? basically so a rib could be used for commercial purposes, but also for private cruising.
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Old 23 January 2006, 04:44   #6
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be careful

Mr Cod, if i was going out on a rib charter, i would at least like to sit down, i don't think its that safe sitting on the tubes at speed. When mine was coded they coded for how many seats there were - hence people (as rogue said), which to me seems sensible

The areas you can code for

Local coding A-D , as example the solent is C/D , D extends to the needles one way basically

MCA coding 1 to 6 - extends to different ranges and conditions, however a rib is generally limited to 4-6 (generally).

All of this determines the equipment you will need

Insurance, if you are carrying fee paying passanges you need to be coded and the correct insurance. if they are not fee paying then its like taking your friends out.....however would you take your friends out without all the correct gear.. probably not.

I asked the same questions, especially the liferaft on ribs question, basically you need the correct gear and insurance and the correct qualifications
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Old 23 January 2006, 05:39   #7
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Mr Cod, if i was going out on a rib charter, i would at least like to sit down, i don't think its that safe sitting on the tubes at speed. When mine was coded they coded for how many seats there were - hence people (as rogue said), which to me seems sensible.
The reason I said I believe I that I know my surveyor wouldn't code for non seated passengers (and I wouldn't want him too) but the OD I drive in the North Sea has a 12 people code and only two seats.

I echo Jimbobs statement of concern re sitting on toobs and would point out that being coded ,insured and qualified doesn't exclude you from a lawsuit for back injuries 4 years down the line. If that happens you need to be able to prove you have taken reasonable precautions to ensure the health and safety of your passengers. I am not sure that toob sitting would assist in that situation
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Old 23 January 2006, 06:10   #8
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Ocean Dynamics boats often have no seats - everyone sits on the tubes holding onto central rails - don't seem to be any probs there.

Apparently you are ok as long as there are sufficient handholds???
I think you will find that most surveyors/certifying authorities will want seating (not on tubes)for all passengers for all new applications. I know that more and more insurance companies are insisting on this for passenger charters.
Another thing I think you will see coming from insurance companies is a restriction to 25knots when carrying passengers in Ribs.
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Andy Gee, interest about speed, my insurance is just up in Feb,,, basically they are using the same details as when i fisrt insured it - 40 knts. But i weill keep an eye out

Good point to raise
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My boat is locally licenced and I have just had a letter from the council informing me that for 2006 the 3rd party liability cover has to be increased to 3M and also that liferafts are now compulsory.

- although existing boats have 12 months to comply with the liferaft.

A 25Knt rule would suck.

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