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06 August 2011, 09:16
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Aintree
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250 opti
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 96
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Commercial endoresement medical
I have just had my medical for my advanced commercial endorsement and it turns out I am colour blind. Can I still get the endorsement ?
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06 August 2011, 09:30
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Linlithgow
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2 stroke YAM 20 HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 5,855
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Do a search on here. IIRC, you are not the first. As I recall Richard (who posted as "Nautibouy" at the time and now uses "UKPowerboats") had this issue and managed to get endorsed. It may depend on the "severity" of your colourblindness - e.g. my son is red-green colour blind but if you show him a clear red or green colour he would be fine, but "impure" colours he usually calls brown, and he is unable to discriminate between shades of green-brown-red. If you've made it this far through life without discovering your are colour blind I assume you are in a similar camp and may be able to convince the MCA that you can tell the difference between red/green buoys and lights.
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06 August 2011, 09:37
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Trade member
Country: UK - England
Town: West Wittering
Length: no boat
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,369
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Hi, I am colour blind too, I am commercially endorsed. I had to go to the MCA at Southampton for a lantern test. They then set a restriction to daylight hours only.
There are contact lenses now that can correct the colour blindness but they won't lift the restriction to daylight hours only even if you use the lenses, as in their words they can't guarantee you will wear the lenses all the time!! I argued the point saying well you can't guarantee someone who has go use their glasses for short or long sited vision! and that they can't guarantee they will wear them either but that argument was going nowhere!
The one concern with daylight hours depending on your working area you need to take into account if you do further distance charters, then you will need to make allowances for any major delays that could affect you getting back inside your daylight hours. Good Luck.
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06 August 2011, 17:21
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Redbay supporter
Country: Ireland
Make: Quicksilver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redthunder
I have just had my medical for my advanced commercial endorsement and it turns out I am colour blind.
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Bummer. New user name then?
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07 August 2011, 09:17
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#5
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Aintree
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250 opti
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 96
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UKPOWERBOAT
Hi, I am colour blind too, I am commercially endorsed. I had to go to the MCA at Southampton for a lantern test. They then set a restriction to daylight hours only.
There are contact lenses now that can correct the colour blindness but they won't lift the restriction to daylight hours only even if you use the lenses, as in their words they can't guarantee you will wear the lenses all the time!! I argued the point saying well you can't guarantee someone who has go use their glasses for short or long sited vision! and that they can't guarantee they will wear them either but that argument was going nowhere!
The one concern with daylight hours depending on your working area you need to take into account if you do further distance charters, then you will need to make allowances for any major delays that could affect you getting back inside your daylight hours. Good Luck.
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Thanks for that I'll contact the MCA on Mon.
Does that mean I still do the night passage stuff on the commercial course?
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07 August 2011, 09:21
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Trade member
Country: UK - England
Town: West Wittering
Length: no boat
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,369
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Yes, I did and actually did not have any issues with it.
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07 August 2011, 12:35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-lyne
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 60
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,969
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Bummer. New user name then? 
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07 August 2011, 12:43
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#8
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2 x 115 Etecs
MMSI: 235060745
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,285
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerny
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...Brownthunder! now there's a thought to hold on to
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ee lad tha' can't educate pork, but you can slow roast it.
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14 August 2011, 11:21
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#9
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Rugby & Southsea
Length: no boat
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 31
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Redthunder - You need to get the ml5 medical done by your GP (which will presumably be a fail on the colour test). Then speak to the MCA and book yourself a two mile lantern test (these are free of charge). If you pass the lantern test then you will get an unrestricted ml5 medical certificate assuming the rest of the medical was a pass. If you fail the lantern test then complete the last section on the ml5 form and send it to the MCA for review.
I did the above & they issued me with an ml5 restricted to daylight hours only.
Chris
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18 August 2011, 17:35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Aintree
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250 opti
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 96
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Yup just did lantern test only the 1 mile one. Failed!! Will now send off to see if I can get a daylight only endorsement. Thanks for the help
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