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Old 12 February 2013, 16:51   #1
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Coding for cat c waters

I'm struggling to find definitive info about coding requirements for non-passenger boats operating commercially in cat c waters.
Are they covered by MGN280 or do they come under the MSN1823 (even though they're not carrying passengers)?
The boat in question is a 4m plastic tender to be used for survey/electric fishing work in rivers.
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I'm struggling to find definitive info about coding requirements for non-passenger boats operating commercially in cat c waters.
Are they covered by MGN280 or do they come under the MSN1823 (even though they're not carrying passengers)?
The boat in question is a 4m plastic tender to be used for survey/electric fishing work in rivers.
‘Inland waters’ includes any area of water not categorised as ‘sea’ - eg canals, tidal and non-tidal rivers, lakes, and some estuarial waters (an arm of sea that extends inland to meet the mouth of a river).

Inland waters are classified as one of four categories:

Category A - narrow rivers and canals where the depth of water is generally less than 1.5 metres
Category B - wider rivers and canals where the depth of water is generally 1.5 metres or more and where the significant wave height could not be expected to exceed 0.6 metres at any time
Category C - tidal rivers, estuaries and large, deep lakes and lochs where the significant wave height could not be expected to exceed 1.2 metres at any time
Category D - tidal rivers and estuaries where the significant wave height could not be expected to exceed 2 metres at any time

These categorisations determine the waters not regarded as ‘sea’ for the purposes of most Merchant Shipping legislation, except that, for marine pollution legislation, ‘sea’ normally includes any estuaries or arms of the sea, and therefore tidal Category C, and Category D, waters.

Water categorisation policy and processes are dealt with by MCA.

https://mcanet.mcga.gov.uk/public/c4...search_map.asp


Link to locations -- https://mcanet.mcga.gov.uk/public/c4...s/view_all.asp

https://mcanet.mcga.gov.uk/public/c4...aters/apps.htm


Hope that helps as a start, may need to research a bit more for you
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Skipper - Minimum Qualifications Cat C & D Waters

http://www.dft.gov.uk/mca/mcga07-hom...qs_iw_code.htm

Last one links to coding on Cat C I believe
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If that cant help your needs p.m Searider on forum who carries out our inspections. I am sure he will help
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Thanks Ian,

I've found most of that info already, and the coding requirements for passenger boats are pretty clear, but there doesn't seem to be a separate code for workboats, unless they fall under MGN280 which seems rather OTT for a 4m plastic pig!

The inland passenger boat code would not seem to be appropriate as it states:

3.1.1 This Code is intended to apply to vessels operating in the UK which do not go to sea and carry no more than 12 passengers. In determining the number of passengers, a passenger is “any person carried on a ship except:

1. a person employed or engaged in any capacity of the vessel’s business;


The boat would only ever be carrying crew or members of a survey team.

I'll try and get a straight answer from the MCA..........
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Here is the latest on work boats with new rules from MCA being released at Seaworks

Maritime Journal - Brown Code revival to launch at Seawork
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