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Old 06 October 2008, 17:38   #31
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...this gives us in excess of 59knots...
you want to update your website then as it says 55 mph (48 knots) not that I fancy either of them sitting on the corporation bus seats you've got fitted to it
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Old 06 October 2008, 18:24   #32
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another non trade member advertising....why bother, no doubt on commission from Ribcraft...
Doesn't contravene any of this:-

Guidelines for commercial posting

It's not like anyone using the commercial section is likely to buy a seal watching experience...
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Old 06 October 2008, 21:38   #33
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I repeat the question, would the Mercury 350 Verado engine be a good choice for charter applications or is it a racing engine?
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Old 07 October 2008, 02:20   #34
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you want to update your website then as it says 55 mph (48 knots) not that I fancy either of them sitting on the corporation bus seats you've got fitted to it

Yeah it does and I am leaving it at 55mph on the site. The site is aimed at customers and not us RIB mutters, don't want to scare them all off

The choice of seat was very carefully planned.
Our normal speed with passengers on is no more than 20-25 knots (dependent on sea state and can be less). Also we aim our trips at families and this includes children. IMHO jockey seats are not safe for people who's feet don't and can't touch the ground, hence bench seats.

SCM..........................if only. With regards to trade membership I can say, hand on heart, that Horizon Sea Safaris has not had one RIBNET member come and pay for a trip on our boat, so it would be fool hardy to think that the company gains from posting on here and since I no longer work for Standard Horizon or anyone else, at the mo, I don't feel trade membership is needed. I am, like many other members on here, just suggesting products that I have used and found to work well.

I just trust in the product, it does the job I need it to do and it does it well. Having driven and or worked on many types and makes this ,IMHO, is the best so far, all of my crew say the same thing. Who is to say that someone, sometime will not bring out a better boat.
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Old 07 October 2008, 02:28   #35
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I repeat the question, would the Mercury 350 Verado engine be a good choice for charter applications or is it a racing engine?
Do you really need all that power/cost?
IMHO most charter companies try to run their boats by using the least fuel possible so whilst they may look good and push the boat along loike a missile is that what you need from you boat and engine combination?
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Old 07 October 2008, 06:51   #36
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The choice of seat was very carefully planned.
Our normal speed with passengers on is no more than 20-25 knots (dependent on sea state and can be less). Also we aim our trips at families and this includes children. IMHO jockey seats are not safe for people who's feet don't and can't touch the ground, hence bench seats.
Very well said Jon.

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Old 09 October 2008, 16:14   #37
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Do you really need all that power/cost?
IMHO most charter companies try to run their boats by using the least fuel possible so whilst they may look good and push the boat along loike a missile is that what you need from you boat and engine combination?
If I didn't think that I would not need it then why ask the question? I'm prepared to consider them an option if they have the same reliability as the 300hp model, but since the 350 is a product of Mercury Racing I belive it's a racing engine and therefore not suited for charter use, this is what I want to know. Not If I "really need all that power/cost". Even the Yamaha V8 is an option.
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Old 09 October 2008, 17:04   #38
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For info, in Sweden we can withdraw VAT and taxes on fuel so its not very expensive here, approx 0,45 GBP per liter if you run commercial.
Our sea is totaly differnet from yours, we have approx 30,000 islands in Stockholm archipelago and approx 10,000 islands in Gothenburg archipelago.
Most of the charter companies over here need to have the possibility to offer the customer what they want, some wants speed some wants cruising and a pint as in the UK but its more uncommon than speed, what they want to find is economical speed, if customer wants 50 knots its better to have twin 300 or 350 than 250 because revs at 50kn is lower with bigger engines, most of you say that we have been running our engines for 600 hours with no problem, thats because your average rev is approx 2500-3000 revs, in Scandinavia the average is probably 4,500 revs and 600 hours per year and thats were everybody wants to find the economy and reliabiltity, today it doesnt mather wich brand of engines you choose (my opinion) its wich brand that gives the best service when you have problems, bad service and waiting time for spares etc means no income, all manufacturers of engines have their problems, isnt it electronic problems its gear boxes etc etc, but who helps when you standings still, thats what counts.
As we say in Sweden, you cant compare apples to pears.
You are mostely running open sea in the UK, here they run most of the time in the archipelago and flat water is boring in 25 knots specially if you going to a restaurant 35-40NM one way.
For example, Stockholm archipelago is approx 180km X 60km and restaurants are spread, 2-3 hours one way to go to a restaurant is to long if they looking forward to dinner, but one hour is OK.
Here its more like a quick taxi on water with speed and fun.
But still, there is still a lot of coast that doenst have any islands and it works similiar like in the UK.

Alpina is in one of the archipelagos.
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Old 12 October 2008, 13:45   #39
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Excellent put Petrov, thank you!
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I repeat the question, would the Mercury 350 Verado engine be a good choice for charter applications or is it a racing engine?
I am confident that the improvement of the 350 makes it even more suitable for charter application, fuel consumption is said to be somewhat less than 2nd generation I am running (275) also lot of improvement to gearcase.

I am to have mine February and am looking forward to it.

Will be trying one in US shortly

It is not intended to be racing engine although the racing department engineered this version

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