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Old 02 October 2009, 16:07   #11
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No wat I mean is that, any IP address will be bounced around the world before it reaches your IP provider....e.g. Sky....Virgin Media ect.....Try it with your own IP adress and you'll know wat I mean
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Are they overseas individuals? Just ask for copies of passports and the credit card front and back plus street address for card.
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No wat I mean is that, any IP address will be bounced around the world before it reaches your IP provider....e.g. Sky....Virgin Media ect.....Try it with your own IP adress and you'll know wat I mean
I frequently geographically lookup IP addresses. In my experience legitiamite users from the "western world" show as coming from roughly the right place.

e.g. my home computer reports "Edinburgh" (about 15 miles out); my office computer shows as Maidstone - which is wrong (athough the right country) but the ISP is based there. All my main customers either correctly lookup to their actual country (and increasingly to their actual region/city) or to the city where their global headquarters are based. (Actually one customer in England shows as being in "Dublin" for no obvious reason).

Whilst I don't doubt that someone conducting fraud can ensure that their IP address reports back to being in whichever country they desire - as a first check if he says he's in London and his IP address says Nigeria then it doesn't add up. Likewise if he say he is in Germany and it lists as Rusia then its not right. Is it fool proof - no; is it a quick and easy way to avoid wasting time yes.
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In my experience, the first giveaway is their language, the sentence construction is never "right" for the profile they're trying fit. The first communication is generally fairly good, as it's had a lot of time spent on it, some variation on a generic model, but the next few generally are a bit "off".
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In my experience, the first giveaway is their language, the sentence construction is never "right" for the profile they're trying fit. The first communication is generally fairly good, as it's had a lot of time spent on it, some variation on a generic model, but the next few generally are a bit "off".

A bit like,
"My Friend how is you. Good to day I am hoping.
Numbers I have for you for our trip............"
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A bit like,
"My Friend how is you. Good to day I am hoping.
Numbers I have for you for our trip............"
Ye Gods JSP - it's been YOU all this time!
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Ye Gods JSP - it's been YOU all this time!
I...err....I'm....errrm....oh well it's a fair cop!
Would my friend not miss this fanatic opportunity to buy this latest Atari computer?
Yours for only 400 of our english punds!
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We all becoming fraud detectors know a days and things or wat All for a good cause though
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IP Locaters wont actually give you the proper location.....the signal is bounced around the entire world most of the time, and will end up leading you to somewhere random in the world......There usless.......There is only one way to trace emails, which is with a post graduate course of computer forensics at uni.......
With most genuine emails it is relatively easy to establish the originating IP, and to decide whether or not it's suspicious. The routing of the email is largely irrelevant, and it's not complicated.

For instance, your IP tells me that you are in Livingston as your profile says. It also tells me that you are connecting through a major ISP. Most scammers lack the clue to fake this information, so it's a fairly good indication that you are where you say you are. If your IP resolved to another country, or an obscure organisation, it would be a possible indicator that something might be amiss.

It's not 100% reliable, but is definitely useful. It certainly doesn't require a post graduate course of computer forensics though.
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It certainly doesn't require a post graduate course of computer forensics though.
If you really wanted to trace it to a pesific computer a post grad course would come in useful though...
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