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Old 28 October 2005, 12:18   #71
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Now due to the fighting in Iraq etc the price of oil is up to $65 a barrell

No it aint
There is very little oil coming out of Iraq momentarily- the high price is due to
demand- especialy from China and India. China- it seems is becoming the world's workshop and is creating a huge demand for raw- materials,

Did you realize that with all the construction going on in China- they are consuming 50% of the current cement world production????????

If I were you,- use your suk 225 while you can still afford it!!!!!!!!!! I have the same tanks as you -i,e 460- 470 liters. thats at least 300 quid every time you fill up!!!!!!/ even sacked the cleaning lady/ and limited my wife to one hairdresser visit every 6 months./ Cats gone . Saved some 40 liters fuelequivalent per week so far. But need to save more....

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How strange, we started off with a fine on Windermere and then a forum WW3. Mr Cod and Jono did you conclude?

I am just sorry they put a ban on, my first trip on my first rib was there, it was fantastic and we always looked forward to it, more that you can imagine, however the anal retentive have spoilt it.

Well I'm off for a beer, i hope if you are ribbing you have a great time, if you are drinking have a great time, if you are doing nothing have a great time
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Now due to the fighting in Iraq etc the price of oil is up to $65 a barrell

No it aint
There is very little oil coming out of Iraq momentarily- the high price is due to
demand- especialy from China and India. China- it seems is becoming the world's workshop and is creating a huge demand for raw- materials,

Did you realize that with all the construction going on in China- they are consuming 50% of the current cement world production????????

If I were you,- use your suk 225 while you can still afford it!!!!!!!!!! I have the same tanks as you -i,e 460- 470 liters. thats at least 300 quid every time you fill up!!!!!!/ even sacked the cleaning lady/ and limited my wife to one hairdresser visit every 6 months./ Cats gone . Saved some 40 liters fuelequivalent per week so far. But need to save more....

Jonathan


Don't you think that the very fact there is "very little oil coming out of iraq" has something to do with the fact supply can't meet demand???

DOH!!!
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How strange, we started off with a fine on Windermere and then a forum WW3. Mr Cod and Jono did you conclude?

I am just sorry they put a ban on, my first trip on my first rib was there, it was fantastic and we always looked forward to it, more that you can imagine, however the anal retentive have spoilt it.

Well I'm off for a beer, i hope if you are ribbing you have a great time, if you are drinking have a great time, if you are doing nothing have a great time
My fault this time - sorry!!!

And now to turn this thread around COMPLETELY again.....well sort of....

I have to be honest that very word "BAN" makes my blood boil - we tend to hear it a lot with New Labour in power!!!

The "anal retentives" as you put it spoil everything!!!

What do people think of the latest BAN??? That of smoking in public places etc?

I don't smoke and never have - I think it is a disgusting selfish habit and I am actually allergic to the smoke - after prolonged exposure I actually start to suffer nosebleeds etc.

BUT I still don't agree with the BAN. Basically I know that if I go to a pub or club I will have to put up with people smoking - it is my choice wether or not I go to that pub or club.

Now I realise that there are more non smokers than smokers these days but what about in a pub or club environment? I would say prob 75% of the people there are smoking.

I know loads of people who will now not go out on a weekend and will buy cans to drink at home so it will definitely hurt business.

In Swansea they tried a non smoking pub/bar - it didn't last long!!!

About the only thing that DOES please me is that loads of these idiots who are about to be banned voted for Blair and the Welsh assembly in the first place - good enough for them!!!
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I Am Surprised Jk Has Allowed This Rubbish To Take Up Precious Server Space,I Thought Threads Like This Were Banned, Discouraged Whatever You Like,
It Started Off About A Speeding Incident On Windemere

Instead It Has Been Inflamatory To Jews, Arabs, The Irish, Reference Has Been Made To The IRA, Paddys, With Shotguns, Necular Weapons, Its Offensive To Labour,Tony Blair ,George Bush

The Middle East Has Been Dragged Into It, Sept 11,War, Wmd,
Oil Price, Gulf War,firearms The Police Carry And Now The Smoking Ban

Am I Missing Something
Did I Click A Link Somewhere


Or Is This All Relavant To Windemeres Speed Restrictions
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I Am Surprised Jk Has Allowed This Rubbish To Take Up Precious Server Space,I Thought Threads Like This Were Banned, Discouraged Whatever You Like,
It Started Off About A Speeding Incident On Windemere

Instead It Has Been Inflamatory To Jews, Arabs, The Irish, Reference Has Been Made To The IRA, Paddys, With Shotguns, Necular Weapons, Its Offensive To Labour,Tony Blair ,George Bush

The Middle East Has Been Dragged Into It, Sept 11,War, Wmd,
Oil Price, Gulf War,firearms The Police Carry And Now The Smoking Ban

Am I Missing Something
Did I Click A Link Somewhere


Or Is This All Relavant To Windemeres Speed Restrictions

I don't recall having said anything offensive about the Jews, Arabs or the Irish. I WAS offensive about the IRA and always will be!!!.

As far as "Offensive To Labour,Tony Blair ,George Bush" - well maybe the truth does hurt!!!

When I saw a post from you I thought it would be about the last post I made - re smoking in public places - hasn't a similar ban been introduced in Eire???
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The Irish Govt has decided that no individual in the workplace ,with the exceptions of prisons and mental hospitals, should be forced to breathe someone elses smoke
Designed particularly for bar staff and pub goers, who have no say in if they breathe in smoke or not.
Now they dont, workplaces include company cars,vans taxis ,busses,shops restaurants and pubs/bars
building sites

breach of this is a 3000 euro fine
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Before you leap in, PD, I know it’s a split infinitive…

(Ah you can't just start to cheekily write something like that and to not fully explain it to us Jono )

Interesting prog. on TV recently about group dynamics or 'groupthink' (although I don't think they used exactly that term) giving rise to the formation of small groups where members prioritise certain behaviour and agreements in order to feel they 'belong' to the group.

However group members as studied seem to sacrifice personal critical abilities (i.e. don't 'speak out against' things they would have perhaps seen as wrong if operating as individuals).

The chilling part of this (when a group ends up thinking and acting wrongly and where critical thinking is not welcomed) is that the group can exist and achieve certain 'bad' things without any external support.

(BTW I don't think we hear enough about all the great work the Police Force do quietly and behind the scenes for very little thanks. )

Oh yeah, 'tis a RIB Forum. Have they banned smoking on Redbays yet Gav. ?

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Don't you think that the very fact there is "very little oil coming out of iraq" has something to do with the fact supply can't meet demand???

DOH!!!
Get it right Codders -there were two hurricans which knocked out 25-30%
refinng capacity in Texas+ Gulf of Mexico temporarily. Iraq hasnt as yet contributed much to the supply/demand equation - even prior 2003..

And Gavin - this is much more interesting than Jap 4x4.s vs LandRovers-- anyway, you dont have to read it!!!!!!. - this is the "funny" season for Ribbing - most are out of the water ---- ah , wait a minute .. there is one coming over from the Channel Islands shortly -- the most eagerly awaited event of the decade....... I will be positioning myself outside Pool harbour with an army of paparazzi.. not to miss it. Have already sold the rights to 'hello" mag. John Kennet is laying on a reception.....

jonathan well its Saturday morning what do you expect!!
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Get it right Codders -there were two hurricans which knocked out 25-30%
refinng capacity in Texas+ Gulf of Mexico temporarily. Iraq hasnt as yet contributed much to the supply/demand equation - even prior 2003..

And Gavin - this is much more interesting than Jap 4x4.s vs LandRovers-- anyway, you dont have to read it!!!!!!. - this is the "funny" season for Ribbing - most are out of the water ---- ah , wait a minute .. there is one coming over from the Channel Islands shortly -- the most eagerly awaited event of the decade....... I will be positioning myself outside Pool harbour with an army of paparazzi.. not to miss it. Have already sold the rights to 'hello" mag. John Kennet is laying on a reception.....

jonathan well its Saturday morning what do you expect!!
I think you will find that the oil price started going up as a direct result of the Gulf war - it was already VERY high before the hurricanes!!!

If you will have a look at this little chart you will see that oil prices are influenced by wars more than anything else!!!

Before the 2nd gulf war Iraq accounted for 40% of OPEC oil production - and about 40% of these stocks were going to China - production is now a third of what it used to be!!!
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