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Old 07 August 2011, 08:35   #1
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Power gives way to sail...

They should really do something to make 'powerboats' more visible:

Tanker collides with yacht at Cowes Week regatta - Telegraph

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Interesting title- there is the small print about restricted by size and draft to consider.

I see from the CG that the yacht hit the tanker, not the other way around - some one esle not read th smallprint??.
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Here it is happening.

‎1 man over board went down the side you can't see, missed the props and missed the supporting tug
1 crew injured when mast came down
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Interesting title- there is the small print about restricted by size and draft to consider.
I know that...You know that... I think the number of sailors that don't know that has just been reduced by 1 .

As far as I am aware it is covered by:

1. The colregs
2. Southampton Harbour Byelaws
3. Cowes Week sailing instructions

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I know that...You know that... I think the number of sailors that don't know that has just been reduced by 1 .

As far as I am aware it is covered by:

1. The colregs
2. Southampton Harbour Byelaws
3. Cowes Week sailing instructions

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A few seconds earlier

Shame the clip does not start a few seconds earlier and I suspect we would hear 2 more short blasts of the horn to make a total of 5 ??

Interesting observations from the clip - tug already attached to the stern of the ship.
It also looks like one of the pilot vessels that may well of been leading the vessel turned around to assist the yacht ??

I may be wrong but I did not think any vessel was supposed to pass between the pilot and the vessel it is escorting.

Thankfully no one was badly injured.
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MAIB report should make for interesting reading! The wisdom of running a yacht race in the middle of a shipping lane has always been questionable to me (and if the economic imperative exists to do that then perhaps the VTS needs to limit/restrict super tanker movements during races, or provide a larger number of escort boats). Whilst there was one vessel actually hit several others were in the exclusion zone around the tanker. Perhaps that needs more strictly enforced so that vessels not complying with it are disqualified from races?
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Taking the yacht and the tanker into consideration then the yacht was daft trying to get in front of the tanker.

However looking at the video this appears to be a pre-defined racing circuit. Would they really have yacht racing across a main shipping traffic route?

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The skipper of the yacht has demonstrated how arrogant sailors have become. It makes my blood boil that the authorities allow hundreds of prats driving yachts to race within metres of the main shipping lanes but won't let the Cowes Powerboat race to start off the RYS as it is deemed to be "Dangerous"
Perhaps it is about time that new laws are introduced to cover stupidity like this skipper fas demonstrated. He should be banned from owning or being on a boat for ever. Rant over!!! Alan P
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Yacht vs Supertanker

Sat in my Predator, off Cowes yesterday afternoon watching the Extreme 40's racing ( fantastic ) and saw the tanker approach Cowes roads from the east, observed a yacht getting close and the tanker ( there was a lead pilot boat / police launch and at the rear a reversed tug / brake ), started honking - lots! I grabbed my camera and took this very poor video ( one handed and aiming by guess work Doh! ). It looked like the yacht turned head into-wind at the last second...........but a bit late! I understand there was a second incident with the tanker at the same time - a Gym palace on the starboard side had a MOB?? But we could'nt see from our position, lots of radio traffic to that effect and a RIB grabbed the casualty/s. All going on!

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The skipper of the yacht has demonstrated how arrogant sailors have become. It makes my blood boil that the authorities allow hundreds of prats driving yachts to race within metres of the main shipping lanes but won't let the Cowes Powerboat race to start off the RYS as it is deemed to be "Dangerous"
Perhaps it is about time that new laws are introduced to cover stupidity like this skipper fas demonstrated. He should be banned from owning or being on a boat for ever. Rant over!!! Alan P
Do you need certificates / qualifications / license to enter these races? ....





Sorry Alan I couldn't help myself.
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Well caught! Pure craziness....

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a Gym palace on the starboard side had a MOB??
Fell of the rowing machine perhaps?
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Do you need certificates / qualifications / license to enter these races? ....
Would ye wheest!

I have to go back there...
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To my knowledge you don't need anything to race a yacht at Cowes Week. You The UIM / RYA do have a race licence programe which is being updated next year. From then you will need a Coastal Skipper ticket before they will grant a race licence. From my part, I had to take every exam under the sun to sail Lively Lady around the World and bizzarly I am doing a conversion on my Yachtmaster Ocean to power this week in a Redbay in Ireland. Even though I have over 200000 logged sea miles under power, I still have to take the exam.
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and bizzarly I am doing a conversion on my Yachtmaster Ocean to power this week in a Redbay in Ireland
Why do I think Polwart knew that?

It's bad news for me of course, I'm booked in for a course there in September and I expect that rates will go up now - the "oh yeah, WE trained Alan Priddy you know!" factor
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Well caught on video-thanks for sharing-unbelievable!
Exclusion zone around large vessels operating in that particular patch of water?
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Rule 1 the survivors of any collision are invariably on the larger vessel!
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Why do I think Polwart knew that?
Because I diligently screen every thread for inappropriate content - http://www.rib.net/forum/f8/bananash...tml#post410343 so I already knew of the issue (but not the solution!).

I was merely highlighting the irony that Powerboats racing from Cowes would need a race license (which may not be that hard to get, but does establish a minimum level of competence and provides an ultimate "sanction" against those who can't follow the rules) but are subject to tougher rules on where the race can take place than yachts where in principle anyone can take part and whilst "slower" (so the risk may be lower?) they are generally less manoeuvrable and greater in number.
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do they need certificates to race there?? I don't know.
But a prat with a certificate is still a Prat!
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Because I diligently screen every thread for inappropriate content
You too? Difference is, if I don't find some, I put it in...
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