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Old 20 September 2014, 05:48   #1
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Would you vote Yes or No? (compulsory auxs)

Nothing official but I was just wondering what others though,
should it be compulsory to carry an independent power source/auxiliary outboard whilst cruising offshore?
personally I would vote yes, and have always carried an aux,
although I very much doubt a small aux would get many back to Port in any hurry, it could at least stop you going broadside to unfavourable conditions, and possibly keep you out of the proverbial.
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Oh lord... A Compulsory question...

So some thoughts:
One mans off shore is another's coastal jaunt.
What about cruising in company?
What about dual engines? But need to prove truely independent.
Can anyone provide a case of a rib going broadside, capsizing and therefore genuinely endangering the crew, oh and was it offshore and was it coz of engine failure?
Does having a backup increase risk you will go out with a niggle on the engine coz the aux will be there?

Without wanting to sound like the HSE surely what's needed is to assess and minimise risks
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Old 20 September 2014, 06:09   #3
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I wouldn't vote for anything that takes away our rights

At the moment our coastline has no restrictions, if I wanted to do a bit of fishing in a tin bath I can do, although the decision to do that would be stupid its my choice.

Even with restrictions, you will always read or hear about someone doing something stupid at sea,

As someone from North of the border once said.... FREEEEEDOM!!
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Old 20 September 2014, 06:25   #4
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Old 20 September 2014, 06:29   #5
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Once you down that route - or any 'compulsory' requirements - you open a whole can of worms: design regulations (for separation of fuel systems, minimum size of auxiliary, etc.,), yearly tests / inspections, etc.,. And this regulatory behemoth would all have to be paid for...

I'm sure we'd all like to carry auxiliaries, etc., but in reality can't and have to balance risks.
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I'd vote no. Do we really want anything to be compulsory?! Plus in my experience they are next to useless. I'd much rather have a decent anchor setup and sea anchor.
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No.

It would be pointless anyway. The responsible boaters with well maintained boats would fully comply and never need it.

The muppets who buy a 200 sieve off ebay would completely ignore the rules, not have a aux and need towing back in from 10 meters off the beach when they break down/run out of fuel/run out of beer etc etc.
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are there significant numbers of powerboats breaking down offshore and needing towed home? if not what problem are you trying to solve...

Its not even required on commercial boats. In fact having an aux with little understanding of its limitations might lead to complacency.
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