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Old 20 September 2014, 18:46   #11
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Aye! I'd say your right there Kerny,
Okay maybe Compulsory is just to enforcing, perhaps I should've asked,,, Are most pleasure craft users confident enough to manage without one?
as mentioned the unit would obviously need regular checks, just like the main engine or engines.
And of course different rules could apply if cruising with company.
However, I still say the minimal power of a little aux should not be overlooked as an essential piece of get you out of trouble kit.
Especially with scenarios like, engine failure in shipping lanes,etc.
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Old 20 September 2014, 23:24   #12
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However, I still say the minimal power of a little aux should not be overlooked as an essential piece of get you out of trouble kit.
Especially with scenarios like, engine failure in shipping lanes,etc.
I've never had an engine completely fail at full pelt or cruising speed with no warning.... I've never had a car so the same either.

Switch to limp home mode.. Yes.

Cut out at idle.. Yes.

Refuse to start.. Yes.

None of the above would be a justification for an aux in a shipping lane.
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My experience of most peoples aux engines is that they sit there doing nothing for months at a time and the one time you do need them - they fail to start!
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I wouldn't vote for anything that takes away our rights

At the moment our coastline has no restrictions, if I wanted to do a bit of fishing in a tin bath I can do, although the decision to do that would be stupid its my choice.

Even with restrictions, you will always read or hear about someone doing something stupid at sea,

As someone from North of the border once said.... FREEEEEDOM!!

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No.

One of the nice things about boating is that your left to make your own decisions, fend for youself and use your skill and judgement.

Anything compulsory takes away from that freedom.

Anything compulsory takes away from you having to think about consequences.
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No, for all the good reasons given above
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My experience of most peoples aux engines is that they sit there doing nothing for months at a time and the one time you do need them - they fail to start!
The above, also a lot of the aux aren't powerful enough to do much more than perhaps keep the boats head into the sea, if you really want to have a meaningful aux it should be powerful enough to push the boat along at a useful speed.

A big No vote from me.
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Running a diesel. carrying a reserve outboard means additional fuel tanks and as the RIB weighs around 2.5 tonnes already, without the aux, it will need to be fairly powerful, especially as it will need to be able to potentially cope with Chichester Bar on a bad day. Also I have a large jetdrive on the transom that will get in the way of an outboard.
So in my case I wouldn't bother and have spent the money on a pair of decent anchor setups. If I break down, I will drop anchor and attempt to sort the problem or summon assistance.
Shouldn't be compulsory in my view. An annual compulsory MOT would make more sense to try and raise the levels of maintenance.
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I'd vote no. Do we really want anything to be compulsory?! Plus in my experience they are next to useless. I'd much rather have a decent anchor setup and sea anchor.
I AGREE with you all now, compulsory is wrong in many cases,
However,
I can't see why anyone would think auxiliaries are next to useless, one shouldn't underestimate the capability of a little Auxiliary, or paddles for that matter,
for an untested example, I would bet that the power/thrust of just a little 2 hp, would equal the power of 4 average men with paddles,
and its amazing the distances achievable with just 2 rowers.
Step up to the 4 hp's, would almost double the thrust of course, but not necessarily double overall speed over ground.
I've personally used 4hp aux's with SIB's to recover up to 6 ton yachts from there mooring to slipway for trailer or crane recovery,
admittedly this was in a reasonable sheltered bay with max f-3 cross or head wind, but still that's amazing power t weight ratio,
almost impossible to steer with the aux though, so best using rudder on the larger craft, with the powered SIB tethered aside.
Must agree with the importance of good Anchoring gear though.
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I wouldn't vote for anything that takes away our rights

At the moment our coastline has no restrictions, if I wanted to do a bit of fishing in a tin bath I can do, although the decision to do that would be stupid its my choice.

Even with restrictions, you will always read or hear about someone doing something stupid at sea,

As someone from North of the border once said.... FREEEEEDOM!!
NO FROM ME.
Now if we're a vote to make it mandatory ...NOT to have an Aux..I'd vote NO too
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