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Old 25 February 2009, 13:16   #11
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That looks a lot more than 10 miles to me!!!
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Old 25 February 2009, 13:35   #12
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" luminous dial from a Lancaster bomber. people used to wear similar things on their wrists!!!...........
I found one of them radium dials (busted) at a spitfire crash sit when i was a kid, and put it in my pocket. theyre alpha emitters so usually the glass contains the radiation. when i got in the bath in the evening i had 0-4000RPM burnt into my leg!

Our radiation expert in work was checking one of the disused airfields we own for radioactive waste, and came across a low level radioactive rock, then another and another, there was a trail of rocks leading from the barracks to the edge of the airfield and through the nearby woods to the village pub.
sometime in the war someone had made a trail of luminous rocks to mark the path to the pub with radium paint to make the journey easy in the blackout.
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Old 25 February 2009, 14:48   #13
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I found one of them radium dials (busted) at a spitfire crash sit when i was a kid, and put it in my pocket. theyre alpha emitters so usually the glass contains the radiation. when i got in the bath in the evening i had 0-4000RPM burnt into my leg!
Awesome - a new painless alternative to tattoos - you could make a fortune!!!
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it didnt last long though, healed up really quickly
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That looks a lot more than 10 miles to me!!!
Does it? I spend quite a lot of time at sea in the area and it looks about right to me!!!

Bearing in mind that if you look in the other direction from Old Harry Rocks you see Bournemouth , I'm not convinced that a wind farm on the horizon is going to 'spoil' the area!!!

Still, I'm sure Poole residents would rather have a nuclear power station built on their doorstep!!!

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Old 25 February 2009, 20:27   #16
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Still, I'm sure Poole residents would rather have a nuclear power station built on their doorstep!!!
Not this one - bring on the windmills as far as I'm concerned. I also tend to agree that they aren't really that unsightly

Certainly I've no desire to see the UK adopting as its sole energy policy a method that requires dumping small quantities of highly ionising material on then next 1000+ future generations. Many of the radioactive outputs from conventional fission plants have halflives that run into the hundreds (if not thousands) of years. Problems like that don't go away in a hurry - so where and how do you safely store that for a looooonnng time.

IMHO diversity is the key - if we have to have a few nuclear plants then lets keep the number to a minimum, but I accept they may have a place. We've also got a bunch of fossil fuel stations - again not ideal, but so be it. However if we can continually add into the mix a bunch of different renewables (wind, solar, tidal etc) then over time we may well reduce our need for the less pleasant options. All the greener options have their limitations but so do the current generation methods - its just that the problems are different.
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IMHO diversity is the key - if we have to have a few nuclear plants then lets keep the number to a minimum, but I accept they may have a place. We've also got a bunch of fossil fuel stations - again not ideal, but so be it. However if we can continually add into the mix a bunch of different renewables (wind, solar, tidal etc) then over time we may well reduce our need for the less pleasant options. All the greener options have their limitations but so do the current generation methods - its just that the problems are different.
Exactly . Large scale nuclear only makes commercial sense if either:

1. You subscribe to the theory that nuclear contamination is harmless, it's all a conspiracy spread by Greenpeace types, or

2. The taxpayer picks up the tab for the clean up, currently some 70bn+ for the existing stations alone.

Thatcher was a big fan of nuclear power, then quietly dropped it. I wonder why...

Change brings new challenges, just like (for example) the move from town gas to natural gas did. The key is investment and good engineering and science (something we still have in this country) to meet the challenges.

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Many of the radioactive outputs from conventional fission plants have halflives that run into the hundreds (if not thousands) of years. Problems like that don't go away in a hurry - so where and how do you safely store that for a looooonnng time.
there are some guys living in caves in Afganistan who will pay to take such waste off your hands...
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Just let them build the things - you'd be hard pushed to see them from Poole or Bournemouth beachs ( Vis is only rarely 10 miles in the summer) . You wont see them from the beach ( distance / vis) . Big boats SHOULD be able togo round them ( out of interest anyone heard of a collision with one yet ? )

And the likes of us can go under / out to have alook at them if we want .

A bit of everything doesn't hurt as had been said.

PS - It'll probabaly never happen much like all the other stuff in and around dorset coastline !
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We already have electricity 3x more expensive than France. They have a load of nuke power stations only 25 miles from us. They are one of the few countries on Earth to meet their CO2 promises.

This idea of mixed power is really stupid. If you had a boat with 3 outboards on it and 1 of them was hardly doing anything or only worked for 15% of the time you would soon ditch it if it was costing you money!!!

It is the greens pushing everyone back into the dark ages through ignorance and fear that is doing more harm to this planet than anything.

Germany ditched most of it's nuke powe after Chernobyl and went down the green route. When they discovered that green power was a waste of time they started buying electricity off Russia to meet the shortfall. And how were the russians generating that power? Nuclear of course. personally I would rather see the Germans in charge of a reactor than the Russians.

As to the old few thousand years halflife argument as a Physicist you should know that the longer the halflife the more stable the material. Remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki are thriving cities and wildlife is abundant around Chernobyl.
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