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Old 26 February 2008, 14:51   #31
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What goes up.......

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Old 26 February 2008, 20:01   #32
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Brilliant - wish it would happen to all of them!!!
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not eagle-friendly

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Thank god they have just cancelled a massive wind farm on the Isle of Lewis. You only have to look at the growing world food prices which is crippling 3rd world countries to realise the harm the environmentalists really cause - wind farms make as much sense as using crops to fuel cars!!!
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...to realise the harm the environmentalists really cause - wind farms make as much sense as using crops to fuel cars!!!
Erm...what other alternative is there, other than fossil fuels?

Still not convinced that wind turbines are a bad thing - birds seem to be able to fly through an awful lot of stuff without getting mushed... although keeping clear of migration routes (as I believe they do in the UK - look at the development off Fleetwood) is always a good plan.

The problem with nuclear is what do you do with the stuff that's left over? Anyone?

Once they find a way to make nuclear fusion work - that'll be the answer...

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The problem with nuclear is what do you do with the stuff that's left over?
theres some old slate mines in wales aren't there?
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Theres work going on to put a massive wind farm at teesmouth near redcar , not only will the exclusion zones mean a lot of boaters and fishermen will have to avoid but teesport is one of the buisest ports in the uk,its also in one the main bird migratery areas ,suppose only time will tell, though we are told that each tower is to have a refuge and ladder from the sea which on a good point. if you crash into one and your boat sinks you can sit it out till your rescued.
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Erm...what other alternative is there, other than fossil fuels?

Still not convinced that wind turbines are a bad thing - birds seem to be able to fly through an awful lot of stuff without getting mushed... although keeping clear of migration routes (as I believe they do in the UK - look at the development off Fleetwood) is always a good plan.

The problem with nuclear is what do you do with the stuff that's left over? Anyone?

Once they find a way to make nuclear fusion work - that'll be the answer...

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The MAIN reason wind turbines are a bad thing is that they are only being built because they have massive subsidies - they just don't make economic sense. Then of course there is the fact they are an eyesore as are the pylons needed to get the electricity away from them. Finally they are a hell of a danger to shipping - just wait until an oil tanker or chemical carrier runs into them.

As far as nuclear power is concerned it has to be the answer. People who actually LIVE by them such as in Anglesey don't mind them at all. Massive power and no CO2. Yes the waste is a problem but as long as it's handled ok it's not such a problem. There is so much hysteria attached to nuclear power. People seem to forget that Hiroshima and Nagasaki are thriving cities now and they were deliberately blown up.

Electricity is wasted big style at night as you can't just turn a power station off. Use that night time waste electric to produce hydrogen gas which could power cars - we could keep our infernal combustion engines then!!!
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Use that night time waste electric to produce hydrogen gas which could power cars - we could keep our infernal combustion engines then!!!
One of the best and most realistic technologies of the near future. I had a Mazda RX8 (crap for towing) but great because they can easily convert it to Hydrogen (few std ICE can do this because of the std engine cycle). Huge benefit - the only biproduct is, WATER!
The problem is, where's the hydrogen come from?
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Finally they are a hell of a danger to shipping - just wait until an oil tanker or chemical carrier runs into them.
so are those rocks - we should blast them out the water. Actually that big island gets in the way between the north sea and the atlantic - perhaps we could remove it completely too!

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possibly the most bizzare argument I have ever heard for nuclear power.
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