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Old 28 December 2005, 13:38   #11
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Problem is I'm in Norfolk at the moment and there are only about 3 other members within about 100 miles of here!

If however there is someone with one..............
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How much will a 13kg bottle of propane cost me.....
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Old 28 December 2005, 14:29   #13
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How much will a 13kg bottle of propane cost me.....
Usually comes in 19kg bottles - not sure how much - about 20???

If you have electricity nearby why not run some extensions out and use fan heaters - 3kw each - 3 of them about the same as a small space heater - just make sure you only have 1 per outlet as they draw almost 13amps each!!!

Most people have a few fan heaters lying around or get them from a cheapy shop for about 10 each!!!
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13kg propane cylinder should cost about 24 including a 10 deposit for the cylinder. (i.e. net cost 14)

As codders said don't try to use butane instead at this time of year - it is useless below about 5 deg C as it starts to freeze around 0 C. Propane will continue working down to at least -30 deg C.

As for Carbon Monoxide poisoning - its less of an issue with the heater you were originally planning to use than the space heaters. As the heater you were planning to use is catalytic it doesn't produce CO (unless it is faulty).

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13kg propane cylinder should cost about 24 including a 10 deposit for the cylinder. (i.e. net cost 14)

As codders said don't try to use butane instead at this time of year - it is useless below about 5 deg C as it starts to freeze around 0 C. Propane will continue working down to at least -30 deg C.

As for Carbon Monoxide poisoning - its less of an issue with the heater you were originally planning to use than the space heaters. As the heater you were planning to use is catalytic it doesn't produce CO (unless it is faulty).

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Actually a catalytic heater DOES produce CO - not as much as a an open flame but more than enough to kill you!!! It doesn't produce CO when there is sufficient oxygen but if there isn't look out!!!

The danger with the catalytic type is they lull you into a false sense of security - a space heater will chuck out so many fumes you will open a window or a door before much harm is done.

There have been loads of instances of people dying in tents etc from catalytic heaters and lanterns etc.

Luckily I am allergic to the fumes these gas things give off so I am gagging for air long before anyone else!!!
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SORRY CODPRAWN IS CORRECT. I HAVE DONE SOME DIGGING AND IT SEEMS I MADE THE MISTAKE OF BELIEVING MANUFACTURERS MARKETTING MATERIAL! WHEN OPERATED IN REDUCED OXYGEN ATMOSPHERES CATALYTIC HEATERS DO PRODUCE CO. Although you would probably notice the lack of oxygen before you suffered the ill effects of CO.

I doubt that small heater is such a large tent would cause a problem (especially with people entering and leaving) but then it also won't heat it.

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...Most people have a few fan heaters lying around ...
I find myself agreeing with Cod twice in about as many minutes.

Yeh, in a tent, get the air moving. And, it's just possible you won't be paying the bill.

Just for info., butane boils at about -4c, propane boils at about -40c.
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