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Old 13 September 2005, 13:55   #11
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CRICKET

"Engaland won the ashes!!!"

I think youl find a handfull of indiviuals playing as a team one the ashes and that it had nothing to do with the skill level or fitness of 99.999% of the population.

Why do people - when a team from their country win a sporting event go round with claiming "We won this" or "We beat them" as if they had something to do with it.

Congratulations to the team that one - but "We" did not win the ashes - unless of course im mistaken and the English team are made up of RIBnet memebers.

mmm, think someone needs to chill out a bit and enjoy a relatively rare moment of sporting success for England.
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Old 13 September 2005, 13:57   #12
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Did we win something?
Im a girl and i new exactly what was happenin lol
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Old 13 September 2005, 14:00   #13
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"Engaland won the ashes!!!"
Exactly the sort of bollocks I'd expect from someone who can't even spell the name of his own country
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Old 13 September 2005, 14:04   #14
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Uh oh.....
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You can call it bollocks if you want.

I feel pride when my son or daughter learn something new, especially when it was from me - or when I personally achieve something that was previously beyond my capabilities.

I suppose the "Sports Fans" (if thatís the correct term) of this world have no sense of achievement in their own lives so have to borrow it from other people they donít even know.

I donít understand how you can feel pride in a strangers achievements you had nothing to do with.

Please explain...
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"You can call it bollocks if you want"

yep, certainly is

"I feel pride when my son or daughter learn something new, especially when it was from me - or when I personally achieve something that was previously beyond my capabilities."

I too share these sentiments when my daughter learns something new or I achieve a personal goal, both feelings that are very individual to me and my family. Obviously, sport isnt more important than either of these, but instead relates to a sense of collective good, comaraderie, team spirit and community - all facets of life that complement our own individuality, goals and aspirations. By the sounds of your post, you have never experienced any of these feelings, perhaps never been part of a team or a close knit community or looked beyond the four square walls of your life.

"I suppose the "Sports Fans" (if thatís the correct term) of this world have no sense of achievement in their own lives so have to borrow it from other people they donít even know."

What planet are you on? No one on here would claim to have been part of the England cricket success (although the supporters surely helped in some way) but that doesnt mean we cant be happy for and proud of our sporting representatives when they achieve results (especially against the odds). The fact that I've never met the team doesnt change this one bit..As for having no sense of achievement in our own lives and borrowing others achievements -are you for real? Read what the most succesful England rugby captain of all time (very much an achiever) had to say about the cricket and then take a look here, where I would suggest your opinion would be a lone voice (something I get the feeling you're quite used to)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cric...nd/4240020.stm


"I donít understand how you can feel pride in a strangers achievements you had nothing to do with.

Please explain..."

Is your head really so far up your own arse that you need someone to explain this in simple terms?
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you've knocked me dead with your persuasive arguement there Roy, I'll bow to you're sharp wit on this occassion.
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you've knocked me dead with your persuasive arguement there Roy, I'll bow to you're sharp wit on this occassion.


Im sorry - no offence intended

I m just not a fan of team sports sorry - each to there own i suppose

I never thought I would say this but chatting about cricket on an internet forum has just brightened what was a very dull day at work

Thanks for the abuse though im off to pull my head out of my arse...
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I suppose the "Sports Fans" (if thatís the correct term) of this world have no sense of achievement in their own lives so have to borrow it from other people they donít even know
An interesting hypothesis from one of Britain's veritable legions of IT consultants. I assume you include in your list of non-achievers the Queen, Prime Minister and the throngs of lawyers, barristers, bankers etc. lining the streets of London at this morning's parade? And it is precisely because 99.9% of us are unable to emulate the achievements of top level sportsmen that we appreciate them all the more. Rather in the same way that the achievements of a small number of Battle of Britain pilots engendered such feelings of pride in 1939.
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