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Old 14 March 2006, 06:39   #41
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...In swansea it is down to the Chief constable - Barbara Wilding. Apparently it sends out a "positive" message!!!

I couldn't believe it when I heard on the news the other night who instigated this shoot to kill policy - guess who - yup Ms Wilding!!!
There's nothing worse that a woman in power.

They're hard bu**ers.
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Old 14 March 2006, 06:39   #42
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Old 14 March 2006, 08:12   #43
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.....in the 10 years to 2003/04 the change in the % of total crime that involved firearms in 0.1%. I would suggest that this is not a significant increase.......
Yes, but what it does show is that the 97 ban had no effect other than to stop a group of generally law abiding people having their fun

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.....Finally firearm related mortality in England and Wales remains the lowest (0.3 per 100,000 population per annum) in anywhere in the developed world with the exception of Japan (0.1 per 100,000 population per annum)......
This is miss leading because people are still killing themselves and each other they just arenít using guns, Classic spin and you fell for it Des
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I have seen armed officers strutting the streets of Swansea with pistols on their hips - have even seen them in our local Tesco doing their shopping!!!
Couple of weeks ago saw a couple of plod buying their chewing gum in our local Tescos (Taunton) and yes - they each had a handgun strapped to their legs.

I remember the wholly justified public furore that followed the arming of plod at Heathrow several years ago. We were assured such measures were necessary to prevent terrorism. Not only have such measures singularly failed to prevent or deter terrorism, they have unarguably led to the innocent death of at least one Brazilian!

I'm not even sure what terrorists would want in Taunton anyway, but by God plod do love to f*cking swagger!
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Not only have such measures singularly failed to prevent or deter terrorism,
Nate, only the terrorists would know that!
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Yes, but what it does show is that the 97 ban had no effect other than to stop a group of generally law abiding people having their fun



This is miss leading because people are still killing themselves and each other they just arenít using guns, Classic spin and you fell for it Des
Couldn't agree more. Mate of mine was a retired BT engineer - lovely old bloke with an amazing collection of guns - had to give them all up and waited years to get compensation.

Guess what - it turns out the coppers in charge of the compensation were stealing the money!!!

Amazes me when they have these amnestys - handing in knives for example. What criminal is going to hand one in? I think I would prefer someone to come at me with a banned lock knife with a 6" blade than some of the knives I see in Tesco!!!
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Couple of weeks ago saw a couple of plod buying their chewing gum in our local Tescos (Taunton) and yes - they each had a handgun strapped to their legs.

I remember the wholly justified public furore that followed the arming of plod at Heathrow several years ago. We were assured such measures were necessary to prevent terrorism. Not only have such measures singularly failed to prevent or deter terrorism, they have unarguably led to the innocent death of at least one Brazilian!

I'm not even sure what terrorists would want in Taunton anyway, but by God plod do love to f*cking swagger!
Tell me about it - how long before a copper gets shot with his own gun? Happens in the US all the time - a minor scuffle soon escaltates out of all proportion!!!
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Tell me about it - how long before a copper gets shot with his own gun? ...

Happened already.... Circa '94... Firearms officer shot with his own (revolver in those days) weapon... mind you.. it was in the mess room at the station... by another officer...by accident.... .Tsk, tsk.... all recounted to me by another officer who was present at the time... I don't believe it made the papers...
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Learn to treat guns with respect? Fine! I have nothing against shooting. However, civilians have absolutely *no need* to learn to fire machine guns.. They are for killing people.

And as for admiring guns as some sort of engineering work of art is -in my opinion- slightly unhinged.
Hence your rather aghast reaction to the video. I personally see no point in collecting, say, Pez dispensers, but still, people do.

FWIW, the machine guns used at that meet are all collectors pieces (and pricey ones at that.) Americans typically do not walk around armed with M-240s.

The collectors have all passed extremely thorough background checks, and have, on average, waited well over ten years for a Class 3 Federal Firearms License.

The shooters are participating, not so much to gain proficiency, but rather because it's an anomaly; something you can do there that you can't do anywhere else (almost true; there are some other places where full-auto firearms and range time can be rented.) The shooting spots on the range at the meet are booked well in advance (two years on average), and time on the guns is booked shortly after the range lineup is filled.

Is it necessary? Of course not. Neither is teaching some kid to ride a motorcycle extremely fast on a road course. It is simply something people do for entertainment.

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I think I would prefer someone to come at me with a banned lock knife with a 6" blade than some of the knives I see in Tesco!!!
Aahhh! So that's why the coppers patrol Tesco's with guns!

Anyone fancy a sponsored "Have A Go At Codders With A Knife" event? He sounds up for it!!
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