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Old 22 April 2013, 16:49   #11
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Plus the fact that their incompetence could end up costing someone's life eventually and it may not be theirs.
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The cause is not an argument, what may be though is that as a charity, they could go a lot farther if they weren't wasting fundraised money replacing and/or fixing vessels wrecked through ignorance and incompetence.
I think that is the real gripe.
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i've had this argument with non boaty friends who come up with stuff like "it's just a boat! their saving whales".
But the waist of (charity) money and equipment is just a crying shame .
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You gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette, ask the RNLI. Luckily their budgets so huge they can afford their own training centre for all their crew that have never stepped foot on a boat before...

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OK Late to the thread.


I am guessing this is about a "fly on the wall" documentary about possibly Greenpeace ?

When is it on ?
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OK Late to the thread.

I am guessing this is about a "fly on the wall" documentary about possibly Greenpeace ?

When is it on ?
Where have you been??
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You gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette, ask the RNLI. Luckily their budgets so huge they can afford their own training centre for all their crew that have never stepped foot on a boat before...

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"A few" and whilst learning and practicing. Most if not all their mishaps are just plain numptiness, expensive calamities borne out of ignorance and dare I say it, in some cases, foolhardiness. That's the WW crews, not the RNLI!!!!
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"A few" and whilst learning and practicing. Most if not all their mishaps are just plain numptiness, expensive calamities borne out of ignorance and dare I say it, in some cases, foolhardiness. That's the WW crews, not the RNLI!!!!
gahhhh...
their mission statement uses words like "direct action" and "confront" - they operate in an extrememly harsh marine environment. They are not a trained navy, just volunteers, activists, who are passionate and willing to do whats necessary to stop the slaughter of whales. Stuff is bound to go wrong, and mistakes be made. In return for the $750,000 paid out by Discovery for "Access" to the Sea Shepherd boats this season, everything they do right and wrong becomes more amplified and public, unlike the RNLI who am sure have made expensive mistakes that never made the public eye. The RNLI are not a good example to hold up here. Better would be the likes of WWF and Greenpeace.....neither of which have any direct action in the southern ocean, preferring in the case of WWF to get into bed with major corporations like Coca Cola and indulge in Greenwashing, or in Greenpeace case to label Sea Shepherd nothing short of pirates (from the safety of their offices) and claim they are putting back the cause of anti whaling by entrenching the undecided on whaling Japanese population against them.
I find it hard to be dispassionate about a few boats and accidents where whaling is concerned. As has been said here - you have to break a few eggs. Until governments decide to police and conserve the oceans that surround them, then Sea Shepherd are all there is. Australia has already said its almost impossible to enforce the sanctions and laws placed on whaling in the Southern ocean whale Sanctuary. Ok ..will get off the soapbox.
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