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Old 13 September 2012, 05:01   #21
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We saw it at RIAT in 2011.

As has been said already the noise was fantastic, but what really shocked me was how slow something that big could do a fly past nose up. It just sort of hung there making loads of noise and looking good.

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Old 14 September 2012, 05:18   #22
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We saw it at RIAT in 2011.

As has been said already the noise was fantastic, but what really shocked me was how slow something that big could do a fly past nose up. It just sort of hung there making loads of noise and looking good.

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Remember, it's designed to carry enough stuff to redecorate most of Moscow so when it's empty with minimal fuel there is a fair amount of spare lift available, 'cos it's all wing

Technically something like a Typhoon has enough thrust to hover in a vertically nose-up position, but I don't think they are allowed to try that at air shows
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It must have a very low wing loading when empty and I am sure it doesn't carry half as much stuff as it use to when in service . I recall reading they stripped out alot of the wiring that wasn't needed anymore and just this saved considerable weight.

There is a great book ( and I think BBC documentary) about the Black Buck raid. As Bog monster said to be able to show 'them' that we could bomb I feel must have had a huge mental impact not only to the Islanders but also the troops on both sides.

I am sure I have the book on a shelf at home if anyone wanted to borrow it ..

It is the highlight of the Bournemouth Air displays for I think most down here ( but the 2 Tornados were a close second noise wise)
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Technically something like a Typhoon has enough thrust to hover in a vertically nose-up position, but I don't think they are allowed to try that at air shows
Ahh, but the Typhoon doesn't have thrust-vectoring so it would fall to one side fairly quickly.

You have a few Typhoons down there now, I believe?
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There is a great book ( and I think BBC documentary) about the Black Buck raid. As Bog monster said to be able to show 'them' that we could bomb I feel must have had a huge mental impact not only to the Islanders but also the troops on both sides.
"Vulcan 607" - a good read, as is "Phoenix Squadron" by the same author - how Ark Royal managed to get Buccaneers over British Honduras in the 1970s using good old British pluck and mettle. The telling sentence is close to the last - when things started happening in 1982 Mrs T said "But what about Ark Royal?". (It had been scrapped)
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"Vulcan 607" - a good read, as is "Phoenix Squadron" by the same author - how Ark Royal managed to get Buccaneers over British Honduras in the 1970s using good old British pluck and mettle. The telling sentence is close to the last - when things started happening in 1982 Mrs T said "But what about Ark Royal?". (It had been scrapped)
Both on the shelf ...two of about ten 'real' books I own
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