Very Lucky Heathrow Crash

[codprawn]

Not lucky to be in it but a miracle nobody was hurt.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7194086.stm

Listening to the comments of the press their ignorance is incredible!!!

Most of the passengers reported nothing seemed amiss so it's a bit of a strange one to land so short.

[bogib]

This accident did affect me a lot, we had to wait in the aircraft for two hours before we where granted slot to start engine and take off, then once we landed on Heathrow we where sent on sightseeing tour on taxi runways as there where no available gate for us..... so my journey that normally takes less than 3 hours took altogether 6,5 hours

Bogi

[codprawn]

You seem to spend more time over here than you do in Iceland - you must prefer our beer!!!

[bogib]

Originally Posted by codprawn

You seem to spend more time over here than you do in Iceland - you must prefer our beer!!!

That what my wife says anyway...... - last time I had beer is back in 1978..... but I am told I am a good holding beer for others.... as I take no tax

Bogi

[matt h]

before you hail the pilot as a hero, twins just dont fail at the same time, and there are 2 main safety back up systems on each engine, plus an Auxilary Power unit in the tail, in addition to that, there is a wind vane located in the in the forward section of the 777, which will deploy if all else fails,(operate hydraulics only) and looking at it, it hasnt deployed, which means no failure,
it is possible that Flameout occured in both units, and the craft was too low to re-start, will have to wait and see!!

[DJL]

Originally Posted by matt h

... in addition to that, there is a wind vane located in the in the forward section of the 777, which will deploy if all else fails,(operate hydraulics only) and looking at it, it hasnt deployed, which means no failure...

I believe the RAT is between the main undercarriage on the 777 - with the plane sitting on its belly it’s a bit hard to tell whether its deployed or not. I'm sure its not just hydraulics either, it powers vital electronics as well.

[havener]

Originally Posted by matt h

before you hail the pilot as a hero,

Understand all the backups, but why not still call the guy a hero?

Are you suggesting it was pilot error that caused it in the first place?

Anyone who can do what that flight deck crew managed under the circumstances deserve praise, especially when most of the country can't even drive a car without cocking it up or being a menace!

Not having a go at you, just curious as to why to hold back on the praise?

[codprawn]

It is way too early to comment accurately on anything until the FACTS are known.

Pilot error looks possible but there is the report that the plane lost all power just before it happened. They prob mean electrical power. Yes they have all sorts of backups but when everything is computer controlled I get worried. If it all went wrong seconds before landing there wouldn't have been time to do anything.

Remember most of the passengers weren't aware of a problem until they hit and then they thopught it was just a hard landing - I would love to have seen their faces when they got out!!!

One thing that does stand out is that BA haven't grounded the fleet - i know it's early but they prob already know the cause. Wasn't it a BA jet that almost ran out of fuel before???

Maybe he did it for a bet - to see if you could put a modern airliner down on a small grass strip - he almost did it!!!

Of course another possibility is weather. My house was hit by a sudden massive gust of wind yeasterday - literally out of the blue. It then mentioned the possibility of tornados hitting Britain.

[matt h]

i guess we must wait untill the CAA do there findings, its only YET AGAIN the press and Media that are having a field day at the Mo,
Guess what, if the pilot was to Blame, in some way,they will be the first to Slate and harass the Pilot.
they still havent said whether or not the 777 had fuel in it,?They havent shown the tankers removing any yet, bit early i know!
I remember going to Liverpool airport to fill up a twin, I specifically asked for 230 litres,When checked i actually had 180 Total on Board, !! could this 777 situation be fuel related,
Its happened many times to the very largest Commercial aircraft.

[havener]

Originally Posted by matt h

I remember going to Liverpool airport to fill up a twin, I specifically asked for 230 litres,When checked i actually had 180 Total on Board, !!

Up there, you were lucky to leave with wheels

(Only joking folks before I get shot to pieces...Dad's a scouser...)