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Old 27 May 2015, 14:20   #11
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By the time we've been boating a few years we'll all have seen examples.....Loch Lomond, December....a jet ski with a young child on the back, no life-jacket, no wet/dry suit and yes, she ended up in the water. I have to believe that they genuinely have no idea of the potential danger....no one would wilfully put a child at that kind of risk? But how do you legislate against stupidity. It's always going to be down to judgement and the best we can do is offer advise as politely as possible and hope that it's heeded. 40+ years of boating, commercially endorsed APB, I'd never "impose" my judgement on others.
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Old 27 May 2015, 16:04   #12
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Would you include water toys - by that I mean the inflatable plastic things used by children at the beach?
I've seen several of the boat type recovered with small children in them having been caught by wind & tide. Landed one myself who'd been carried nearly 1/2 mile along the coast by the time I caught up with him, fortunately he'd had the sense to stay in it. Lovely sunny day & the beach was packed.
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Old 27 May 2015, 16:05   #13
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I decide to take it on a canal, would u have me stopped? An inland reservoir? A large inland loch like ness? A sea loch? To Ireland?
I think I'd draw your line at Ireland...
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Old 27 May 2015, 16:08   #14
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No, horrible idea. Keep the sea free.
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I think I'd draw your line at Ireland...
I'm sure most people would! But I've done a ferry crossing to Ireland where I genuinely could see my face in the sea right the way across. I suspect that'd be less risky to have done than some of the crazy sh1t Frank Dye did in a wayfarer... ...yet he's highly regarded as an adventurer rather than needing regulated...
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I'm sure most people would! But I've done a ferry crossing to Ireland
Not much point asking me where I'd draw the line if you've slipped in already!
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I have a phrase for such vessels, a 500 'West Briton Wonders'. The West Briton being our local rag from where many of these heaps are purchased. Such 'rigs' often consist of a late 70's or early 80's dog rough speedboat combined with a similar age outboard last serviced in the mid 90's all sat on a totally f'ked trailer.

Many don't see the water, as a bearing often collapses en route and a wheel ferks off somewhere like, into oncoming traffic etc. If one should make it to a slip, look out!

Such a rig killed a 4yo kid a few years back, the hitch let go on recovery, no breakaway cable, it shot back down the slip, lurched sideways and smashed the kid to bits as he sat on the side of the slip.

Yes, there should some sort of minimum requirement.
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Old 27 May 2015, 17:13   #18
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Many don't see the water, as a bearing often collapses en route and a wheel ferks off somewhere like, into oncoming traffic etc. If one should make it to a slip, look out!

Such a rig killed a 4yo kid a few years back, the hitch let go on recovery, no breakaway cable, it shot back down the slip, lurched sideways and smashed the kid to bits as he sat on the side of the slip.

Yes, there should some sort of minimum requirement.
This is down to "construction and uses" and is covered by road traffic acts. Point being, if they've ignored those regulations where there's a fair chance of being caught, the same people are going to pay no head to boating regs where there's virtually no chance of being caught.
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This is down to "construction and uses" and is covered by road traffic acts. Point being, if they've ignored those regulations where there's a fair chance of being caught, the same people are going to pay no head to boating regs where there's virtually no chance of being caught.
No paperwork, no launch, with the risk of confiscation. It could be policed if there were the will.
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.....Loch Lomond, December....a jet ski with a young child on the back, no life-jacket, no wet/dry suit and yes, she ended up in the water. I have to believe that they genuinely have no idea of the potential danger....no one would wilfully put a child at that kind of risk? But how do you legislate against stupidity.
Some Muppet here flipped his car at silly speeds with toddler in the back, no car seat etc. Kid amazingly uninjured.

Police / CPS decided that Road Traffic Regs would not punish enough (already disqualified) so they prosecuted using child negligence rules... Convicted
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...ipping-4798865

They have also similarly charged someone who put a pram (with child in) in the back of a van.

So if someone needs a law to stop something there could well be one.
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