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Old 05 April 2013, 15:09   #1
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Time for a change.

My job as a Systems Engineer is really getting me down, tied to a desk all day and doing the same old stuff. All recruitment agencies do is match key words from your CV to key words in job descriptions and offer the same type of jobs. I don't want to do the same stuff!

There must be something challenging, varying, interesting and different going on in the south of England. Mustn't there?

If anyone comes across such opportunities, I'd be grateful for being pointed in its direction - before I start putting my pants on my head and a pencil up each nostril!

As they say on EastEnders: "It's doin' me flippin' 'ed in.."

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My job as a Systems Engineer is really getting me down, tied to a desk all day and doing the same old stuff. All recruitment agencies do is match key words from your CV to key words in job descriptions and offer the same type of jobs. I don't want to do the same stuff!

There must be something challenging, varying, interesting and different going on in the south of England. Mustn't there?

If anyone comes across such opportunities, I'd be grateful for being pointed in its direction - before I start putting my pants on my head and a pencil up each nostril!

As they say on EastEnders: "It's doin' me flippin' 'ed in.."

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Man I've got some good plans of where I could go next, but getting the mrs on board has been the hard part, and I don't want to be too pushy. What's your attitude to risk? Can you afford to take one?... A pay cut perhaps ? If it meant a more enjoyable job ... Loads of stuff to consider. Have you got a lump sum to invest in some plans, or is more of a sideways shift you are thinking about ?
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I thinks its a bit of a sideways shift. If it was something that enthused me I'd take a risk.

Something that:
  • Pays the mortgage
  • Gets me out of an office once in a while
  • Rewards hard work and effort
  • Isn't the same day after day after day.

I think that describes burglary as a career!
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I thinks its a bit of a sideways shift. If it was something that enthused me I'd take a risk.

Something that:
  • Pays the mortgage
  • Gets me out of an office once in a while
  • Rewards hard work and effort
  • Isn't the same day after day after day.

I think that describes burglary as a career!
Perfect ... Join the police ... Well fella there's a lot to consider .. Post some likes and dislikes and see what the venerable crew suggest for consideration cos most of your options are on the regular list of wants I'm afraid
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...cos most of your options are on the regular list of wants I'm afraid
I deliberately left off "within walking distance and next to a pub".

Something along the lines of alternative energy, marine electronics, terrorist, etc., - a company that is, or wants to be, the best in their game, not satisfied with aiming for mediocrity. Oh, and the moon on a stick.
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When you say Systems Engineer I assume you mean programming or something? Can you expand on your skills and experience?

People that I have worked with which call themselves systems engineers are the people that write the programs for machine tool and test rigs. There is a certain amount of travel involved which can be rewarding and enjoyable.
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I'm a "Systems Engineer", the title covers a multitude of sins
I'm a systems engineer out of choice, I got fed up being a Project Manager - I wanted to do things, not just talk about them and then explain where the money had gone.
As Andy says, some systems engineering can be interesting, and involve occasional travel. I have spent a year working on the design element of the particular project I am involved with, and am now due to go back out to Saudi Arabia again for a few weeks. I have travelled outside of the UK on various projects to some quite unusual places, but I have to say that the most interesting visits that I have been on have been within the UK Places that you could not pay to visit.
So, the job can be what you make it, together with finding the right employer. It also helps to have a USP, in my case an expertise in a particular domain.
In the present climate you will need to look, look, and look some more to find the right post for you. Sorry if that has come over as a bit of a lecture, but you need to be absolutely sure before you jump, it might be difficult to get back into engineering.
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My job as a Systems Engineer is really getting me down, tied to a desk all day and doing the same old stuff. All recruitment agencies do is match key words from your CV to key words in job descriptions and offer the same type of jobs. I don't want to do the same stuff!

There must be something challenging, varying, interesting and different going on in the south of England. Mustn't there?

If anyone comes across such opportunities, I'd be grateful for being pointed in its direction - before I start putting my pants on my head and a pencil up each nostril!

As they say on EastEnders: "It's doin' me flippin' 'ed in.."

Cheers,
Sounds to me like you want to stop being an employee, and start up your own business.
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When you say Systems Engineer I assume you mean programming or something? Can you expand on your skills and experience?
More taking an idea/concept or a customer's need and developing it into a design, integrating it, testing it, etc.,.

Over the years I've been:
  • A problem-solver / avionics development engineer for a fleet of aircraft that became a large UK airline
  • A flight-recorder / datalink specialist
  • Specified air traffic control systems
  • Worked for a large manufacturer of large aircraft
  • Developed / verified avionic systems
  • Been requirements manager for a defence contract
  • Worked in concept development / innovation within aerospace

(Lots of this has involved programming though)

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It sounds to me as though you are in need of an Adventure

In the current climate, I'd be very wary of jacking in a job that offers good pay and security. Maybe you just need to break out and do something demanding outside work for a bit?
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It sounds to me as though you are in need of an Adventure

In the current climate, I'd be very wary of jacking in a job that offers good pay and security. Maybe you just need to break out and do something demanding outside work for a bit?
I agree with Willk 100%. Have an adventure rather than jack the job in. Better the devil you know etc...
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Yep that's true it's been a hard winter especially working out side I think we all get fed up and want a change
I have wanted a job in a nice warm place fed up of getting wet and cold in the rain & snow
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Double amen to that!
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If you have a job with a decent income stick with it until you get a better offer
I had a small business for 6 years and had to give up last October and I now work in a call centre (which I don't like) its unsociable hours, 42 miles daily round trip, crap pay and boring job, but met some good people.

I'm looking for something better but after spending years in sales self employed, I didn't gain any qualifications so may struggle to find a well paid job.
I'm working with people who have had really good well paid jobs but cant find new jobs with good salary
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If you have a job with a decent income stick with it until you get a better offer
I had a small business for 6 years and had to give up last October and I now work in a call center (which I don't like) its unsociable hours, 42 miles daily round trip, crap pay and boring job, but met some good people.

I'm looking for something better but after spending years in sales self employed, I didn't gain any qualifications so may struggle to find a well paid job.
I'm working with people who have had really good well paid jobs but cant find new jobs with good salary
Sorry to hear that. The only advice I can give is to stick with it and try to find a new career or job whilst still in employment as it's hard being unemployed even for skilled people at the moment
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More taking an idea/concept or a customer's need and developing it into a design, integrating it, testing it, etc.,.

Over the years I've been:
  • A problem-solver / avionics development engineer for a fleet of aircraft that became a large UK airline
  • A flight-recorder / datalink specialist
  • Specified air traffic control systems
  • Worked for a large manufacturer of large aircraft
  • Developed / verified avionic systems
  • Been requirements manager for a defence contract
  • Worked in concept development / innovation within aerospace

(Lots of this has involved programming though)



Shhhhh, Steve! This is the first time I have 'come out'. I tell my kids that I screw the caps on tubes of toothpaste for a living; I advise my wife to tell people that I am in prison for molesting old ladies (its less embarrassing that way!)

I've worked for a couple of special purpose machine tool manufacturers in the past and my idea of a systems engineer was someone that programed these machines to work using touch screen interface technology. They set up drive systems, sensors and 3rd party noise/vibration analysis systems and integrated these in to the main Test platforms that were used for end of production testing for some pretty major clients. The guys we had working with us used to travel frequently but could also perform remote machine operation anywhere in the world as all our machines were connected to the internet.

Something like that would get you out the office, wouldn't it?
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