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Old 09 January 2003, 17:51   #31
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I would just like to say thank you for curing my imsomnia.
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Old 10 January 2003, 06:51   #32
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Mr. Diggler,

I was distraught to hear that you suffer from insomnia but it pleases me to know that I was instrumental in putting you to sleep.



Thanks to all who added their personal experiences to this thread. I think it emphasised how even strong swimmers can get into difficulties.

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Old 11 January 2003, 06:01   #33
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Hi Dave,

Thank you for your efforts, it is always good to take a refresher in what to in the event of an accident.

However, last saturday I was out in Langstone Harbour when the call came out that a person had fell ovrboard near to the langstone run (out going tide run 9knts). The emergency servics were deployed and eventually they found the person.

Sadley he was pronounced Dead On Arrival.

The write up in said he was an very experienced and safety concious skipper who had years of experience. He had just droppped his daughter and boyfreind on shore then went to tie up onto his swing mooring. Apparently he slipped and fell into the water. When his body was found (outside the harbour) he had NO LIFEJACKET ON!

I think this is a stark reminder to us all that it can and dose happen.

He leaves behind a wife and daughter. ALWAYS, ALWAYS were a lifejacket or bouyancy aid. NO EXCUSES.
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Old 11 January 2003, 06:13   #34
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This is a very sad storry but a lesson for all.
In cold climates (warm also) one should alsways have a life jacket on until is on dry land.
The hard don't care boy-racer attitude is for light headed I would say!!
Very sad storry indeed.
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Old 19 January 2003, 07:41   #35
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time marches on and we make progress - or do we???

The new 8th edition FA manual tells us there is no indirect pressure to treat serious bleeds. (torniquets having been out for years - but not apparently for bleeding infantrymen on the field of battle)

The manual also instructs that we check for circulation in a resus casualty only by looking for signs of breathing, coughing, choking and movement. No touch of the cheek or look at the casualty colour. (and certailny no check of the pulse)

After decades of being told we will kill a casualty if we compress the chest of someone with a heartbeat, the chances of anyone not getting cpr coming out of UK waters would appear unlikely? Anyone have any stats on survival levels from water based RB and CPR situations??

Anyone carry a face mask in their FA kit afloat? The RNLI use a small plastic tube - 15" x 1/2" dia. from the mask to the mouth of the resuscitator - no facial contact - no loss of teeth falling off the wave on the way back.

Just a thought or two.................fwiw RogerC
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Old 19 January 2003, 09:22   #36
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I have seen and used that face mask you are talking about and it does work very effectivly,I will see wether there are any available for purchase as they do do the trick very well.

And what better thing to add to your own experiance of life that you were able to help somebody else live theres.

It has to be the best thing a Man/Woman could do.
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Old 19 January 2003, 09:53   #37
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.....I will see wether there are any available for purchase
If you do give us the site mate. Will you!!
I'm interested too!!
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The manual also instructs that we check for circulation in a resus casualty only by looking for signs of breathing, coughing, choking and movement. No touch of the cheek or look at the casualty colour. (and certailny no check of the pulse)
This manual is wrong to say this. Absent respirations can be a late sign of cardiac arrest (believe me, I've seen it.) The only way to assess cardiac output is to feel for a pulse (rate, rythym. strength) although colour will give some guide but not always so. (carbon monoxide poisoning makes you look very healthy, even in death.)

Average survival rate from CPR is in the low percents.(1-3) Pros with all their kit and drug therapy manage about 19 percent. The problem with CPR is that even if its done well, the output is only 30 percent of a normal heartbeat. Also, if a cardiac arrest victim, needs defibrillating, it doesn't help to be in a wet environment cos' everybody standing around watching gets whacked as well which p*sses them off somewhat.

Face masks for resus can be bought from S.P Services in Telford. If theres enough interest, Ill get a batch.

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Face masks for resus can be bought from S.P Services in Telford. If theres enough interest, Ill get a batch.
What is the cost David?? I am seriously interested
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