I would imagine it is over sponsorship of boatmad, there was a thread about people in the marine industry benefiting from the forums but contributing no funds to help run the site, I would assume it is an escalation of this argument, as the guy in my office runs his own site I can see the problem of continual maintenance and control, as I am sure ribnet also creates it's problems and gives JK a head ake from time to time, I remember making some political comments and JK was quick to cut the thread short so he obviously keeps a tight reign as did Mr Fuller, I am sure JK could explain should he wish