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Old 08 August 2009, 18:36   #31
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I smell something legal is about to happen. Got a good solicitor Doug? Fleece the fecker!
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Old 09 August 2009, 03:42   #32
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Hi Doug, sorry your having grief. Out of interest what craft is this team operating for charter as on The Solent and where from? Cheers Ian
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Sorry to read about this Doug.

Have the RYA said if they will get involved?
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I have spoken with the MD of offender’s web hosting company. He was very helpful.
This information is a little late, but those with similar intellectual property might make note of this site...

http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

This site archives webpages. If you enter your url, it will, in most cases, have stored older versions of your site which can be use to establish prior "ownership" of content.

I'm glad that you thought to speak with the hosting company. ISPs can be held liable for hosting "illegal" content and if a site is copied, it would "qualify" as such.

In my experience, upstart companies that launch their businesses in the fashion that this fellow did, have a very small chance of succeeding, so there's a good chance he won't be along anyway.
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Their domain was registered in 2005, they have the same text on a facebook account as well. This could have knock on effects with google (if they route the spider/bot through a proxy server). I have seen similar situations when the offenders site replaces the original in google results (for a limited time) not very pleasant.

You need to speak to a legal expert and get the whole thing rolling,IMO. The company has already damaged your rep and has shown its guilt by removing the original content.

Its unfortunate because the involvement of a 'legal expert' has the immediate effect of incurring costs, which then have to be reimbursed by the offender.
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This information is a little late, but those with similar intellectual property might make note of this site...

http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
Thats a cool site , it seems to only show my site up to 2004 though and I havnt changed domains or anything cool site though
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Wow. That never happened to me, yet, may be. But here's a good read that shows step-by-step instructions on how to deal with that thief:

http://ezinearticles.com/?Someone-St...Text&id=154473
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Only just had a chance to read through all of this - it really stinks!!! Your website is far better and the copying is totally blatant.

Having spent over a year working on my own website i would not be at all amused if it happened to me.

Maybe you should have a word with a friendly hacker - a DOS attack could be arranged..........
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Forget a dos attack, just register a very similar domain to theirs and have some fun, Google seems to love keywords gained from domain names.
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What would you do if someone had ripped of your website? I am not talking one or two lines of text I am talking a substantial amount of the text on the site and some of the layout

Clearly this is a breach of copyright and I have plenty proof that I wrote and therefore own the material.

What would you do?
Hi Doug,

I had a legal battle a few years ago regarding a similar matter with a marketing client. I outsourced some copywriting to a "professional copywriter" only to find that he had copied 87% of my client's competitor's website which was totally unacceptable. With this case the website text never went live but we took legal action but it was an expensive fight and one that was settled out of court in the end as they put their hands up. We didn't use them again!

My advice to you is much what other people have said, document any communications, take screen prints of you website and theirs including page content and HTML title tags, descriptions etc. If you do take legal action you will need as much information as possible but I suggest you write a letter to say that you are aware of the copyright infringement and give them a deadline to remove it. If they do not respond to it then seek legal advice, I suggest you CC your solicitor in on the initial letter (this won't cost you anything but having a CC with a solicitor firms name normally gets people's attention and shows you mean business!).

One thing you may want to look at/invest in is brand names for specific training elements. These could then be trademarked to protect your business. Unfortunately cases involving passing off and copyright infringement are expensive and long winded and I personally think the Government should offer more support to help SMEs protect their interests.

Your business is all about quality of training and reputation, I would personally focus on investing in a referral scheme or customer retention marketing with the view to creating more business from existing clients (who know who you are and how good you are) rather than spending a lot of money on a legal fight.

Hope this helps.


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