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Old 06 August 2009, 04:38   #21
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I have spoken with the MD of offender’s web hosting company. He was very helpful. They have agreed to give the offender 24 hrs to take down the relevant text or they will take down the whole website.

They have just called back and said he has agreed to deal with it today and for me to have a look at his site first thing in the morning to check the relevant material has gone.
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Old 06 August 2009, 05:04   #22
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Sounds like a nasty business .. got me worried about my site now .. will keep an eye open for how to avoid this.

I do a lot of my own design which isnt too outstanding but IIRC the name of the website creator is actually embedded in the HTML which a viewer of a site cannot see. Only when you open the page with an editor and you select HTML view can you see it. This might not be relevant, but it may help prove ownership of the original content and it also has the date of encodement there aswell for each page. So .. his dates will be younger than yours

*edit* load a web page and click View, then select source and will show you some of what I mean using IE 7 or 8
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Old 06 August 2009, 06:34   #23
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It may possibly be innocent on the part of the new centre,
Having seen your examples - there is quite clearly no doubt whatsoever as to the extent of his innocence!
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This could be an oppertunity for you

In my business, i have found that good suppliers are willing to show people (other people in the same sort of industry)around their production line , knowing full well that by the time they catch up they have moved on to be even better.

Your site is a good site and thats why people have looked at it for ideas (i am not saying they should copy), so you could encourage the RYA for example to say look, i have set a good standard for a site for the industry, which will get your name known as the leader. Then make your site even better............so i think it wrong what he has done, but you are setting standards....thats with due respect to some other good sites

Its the way we would look at it
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Old 06 August 2009, 13:02   #25
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well alot of his pages are now:

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Old 06 August 2009, 13:25   #26
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Well done Doug
In a way you should be flattered that he liked your style of website so much he had to steal its content.

But what a lazy B for doing it and loved his replies and the examples you showed us.

Still all good in the end
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Glad you got sorted fella.
It is a smart site YOU have.
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If he does it again - make him an offer he can't refuse .......
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Old 08 August 2009, 17:38   #30
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Stole our website again

The offender’s web host phoned me Thursday afternoon and told me that the stolen text/pages had been taken back by the school itself A quick look online confirmed this. On Thursday evening the offender emailed me one word “Done”.

Since then however he has obviously been busy as things are pretty much back to where they were.

Stormforce Coaching’s Cowes Week and Round the Island products are back up on his site word for word with just the odd training weekend date and price changed. Many of our course descriptions (and lay out) are also back up (all be it with some very minor changes).

When I started this thread I was looking for advice (for which I am grateful for Tim, Tim and everyone else) not to air dirty washing. Those who have emailed me over the last week to find out who the offender was know that I refused to "name" however the offender is clearly now taking the pi@@, so there is no reason for me to protect the identity of Ocean Sports (www.oceansportstuition.co.uk)

Below are some examples of his new edited text, see if you can spot any similarities with our original text.

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ADVANCED POWERBOAT COURSE - OCEAN SPORTS TUITION RIP OFF SITE (VERSION 2)

AIM: Want to go out at night, go fast and handle the big stuff? Then the advanced course has it covered and some. If you are wanting go further afield or out in more demanding conditions, then this is the course for you.

DURATION: 2 Days (0900 until late first Day & 0900 to 1600 on the second day).

PRE REQUISITES:
RYA Level 2 (essential)
Navigation knowledge up to Day Skipper theory standard (essential)
RYA First Aid (essential)
RYA SRC (essential)
RYA Intermediate Powerboat (desirable)

COURSE CONTENT: The course includes GPS navigation, improved boat handling skills, high-speed navigation, night navigation, rough weather handling, sector searches as well as revision on all aspects of power boating.
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AIM: So, you want to go fast, travel at night and handle waves? The advanced course covers all this and a whole lot more. If you think it’s time you took your boat further afield or out in more challenging conditions, then this intensive two days should bring you up to scratch.

DURATION: 2 Days (0900 till late on Day 1 & 0900 to 1600 on Day 2).

PRE REQUISITES:
RYA Powerboat Level 2 (essential)
Navigation knowledge up to Dayskipper Shore based standard (essential)
RYA First aid (essential)
RYA SRC (essential)
RYA Intermediate Powerboat (desirable)

COURSE CONTENT: The course includes GPS navigation, improved boat handling, high-speed navigation, night navigation, rough weather handling and sector searches.
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INTERMEDIATE POWERBOAT COURSE - OCEAN SPORTS TUITION RIP OFF SITE (VERSION 2)

AIM: To gain the skills required to plan and undertake coastal passages by day. We will demonstrate and coach to enhance and develop your boat handling skills.

DURATION: Two Days 0900 to 1700

PRE-REQUISITES
RYA Power Boat Level 2 (essential)
RYA Fist Aid (recommended)
RYA VHF SRC (recommended)
RYA Day Skipper Theory (useful)

COURSE CONTENT:
Students attending this course will plan and execute two passages - one by traditional navigation and the other by GPS.

Subjects will include; Charts and their interpretation, The Compass Rose, Position, Direction and Distance, Methods of Position Fixing, Tides and Weather, GPS Navigation, High Speed Navigation and practical application of. Berthing between piles, Mediterranean moorings, entering and leaving locks and a range of man overboard techniques.
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AIM: To learn the skills required to plan and complete coastal passages by day and to develop new boat handling skills.

DURATION: Two Days 0900 to 1700

PRE REQUISITES:
RYA Level 2 Certificate Coastal (essential)
RYA SRC (recommended)
RYA First Aid (recommended)
RYA Dayskipper Shorebased (useful)

COURSE CONTENT: During this course you will plan and undertake two passages, one by GPS and one by traditional navigation. Subjects covered include Charts and their interpretation, The Compass Rose, Position, Direction and Distance, Methods of Position Fixing, Tides and Weather, GPS Navigation, High Speed Navigation and practical application of. Berthing between piles, Mediterranean moorings, entering and leaving locks and alternative person overboard techniques.
The Aim, Duration, Pre Requisites and Course Content sub headers are used throughout our site and have not come from the RYA site or any where else. The text was of course written by myself.

Evan after being caught and told by both me and his own web hosting company to take down the copyright breached and stolen material Ocean Sports Tuition uploaded our race events word for word again and made a half hearted effort to disguise our powerboat and shorebased course texts as his own.

You can imagine how surprised I was last week, that Ocean Sports had copied our website site word for word and tried to pass it of as his on. When he then denied it and claimed he had not copied anything I was shocked that someone could lie so blatantly. Now that he has done it all over again and put up our race events word for word I can barley belief it.
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