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Old 20 September 2005, 07:59   #11
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Sure.. and if you happen to leave your boat unattended for a second and someone decides to use it, so what? Can't be criminal surely...
Well I suppose I was thinking of a situation where you thought the access was free - next to a Marina / pub etc. but you had actually locked on to another unprotected network. Seems you could be charged and would have to plead ignorance/stupidity. However the whole thing woud have been prevented by the private network setting up encryption. Its like leaving your door open or the wheel clamp off the trailer. The insurance Co wouldn't pay out since they would consider you negligent.
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I don't think its comparable to taking someone's boat for a spin. Its possibly more comparable to reading the newspaper over someone's shoulder on the bus!
Couldn't agree more - BRILLIANT comparison!!!
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...Alternatively there's often someone with an unsecured connection broadcasting their SSID
Erm - that sounds like what I've got.......

If I've got a wireless network, how do other wireless devices (that belong to me ) log onto it if the SSID isn't being broadcast? If I turn SSID off - then the wireless laptop and the X-Box can't seem to find it... is there a way of pointing them at it? Or am I just stupid?

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P.S. You don't have to answer the last question......
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you can specify the ssid when creating the connection rather than browse for it
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dont know about xbox - but on windows xp you can add a new preffered network and enter the ssid manually
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The laptop still can't see it, even if I put the SSID in manually. Any clues?

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Other than checking WEP keys (if you have them setup) to make sure that the one your keying in matches that of the Access point.

No - sorry

What make access point and what make wireless network adapter are you using - and are you using the built in Windows Wireless Network Manager or one that came with the wirelss adapter.

Ill do some experiments here - I have all d-link kit myself - as an alternative to hiding the SSID you could just turn on WEP encryption (if you dont have it allready)

Although it can be cracked with the appropriate hardware/software - it is enough to stop the average casual user from getting on your network.
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Roy,

I assumed that the wireless router would update without switching it off - clearly not!! I turned it off then on again ( ) and it seems to be working fine now.........

Thanks for your help!!

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P.S. Linksys wireless router/gateway thingy, and whatever it is on a Dell Laptop.
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Ok cool - i was going to say - the easyest way to do it is to have your router/acces point set to broadcast the ssid - then set up your clients - then change the setting to hide the ssid - job done...
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There's a third action to take which is a good idea - once you've got all the wireless PC attached, lock down the access to specified MAC addresses only.

These levels of restriction prevent three different vulnerabilities:

Turning off the broadcast of SSID stops your wireless access point shouting "here I am" to all and sundry. This is the most basic step, and you should always, always do this. It stops automatic detection by roaming wireless users, but a determined hacker can still "snoop" on your connection.

Using WEP (Wired Equivalency Protocol) applies a very weak encryption to all your data that's transmitted across the airwaves. It's very easy for a hacker to crack this, though. So never do your on-line banking from a wireless laptop. You are just giving it all away to anyone snooping. Scarey, heh?

Locking down your access point to specified MAC addresses (the unique IDs on each of the wireless network adapters on each of your own PCs) stops an unauthorised PC attaching to your router and accessing the other machines in your house and/or your internet connection. Hackers can still "snoop" on your broadcated data though (see previous two points).

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