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Old 21 October 2012, 16:51   #51
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Then there's the 3 lane "chicken run "roads the one with the middle lane where each direction shares the overtaking lane lol

Know of a couple of 30 moh roads locally that have the permanent fitted time over distance speed cams stops getting caught if overtaking .
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Old 21 October 2012, 16:51   #52
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So your happy doing 71 with a trailer and making misjudgements whilst driving.
My question is do you belive you should be nicked
If yes then take the points if not put a thread together explaining what is a safe speed to drive with a trailer and overtake on A roads.
You havent read all my posts have you ? ... for your benefit .. I dont know what speed I was doing 'exactly' on the A road
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I drive the A9 on a weekly basis and the only speed cameras currently on dual carriageways are the three between Stirling and Perth (2 northbound, 1 southbound) everything else is on single carriageway and even then a lot of them have been removed over the years as the road has been improved (Ballinluig, Aviemore, Bankfoot) There is now only 1 northbound (Dunkeld) which is about a mile after the end of the dual carriageway and hidden behind a sign. No doubt remains because it catches people out and hence makes a profit. There is only one southbound at Blair Atholl on the long sweeping bend. Again difficult to see because of the bend.

I have often tailed lorries doing 56 through the cameras and they haven't gone off. I have also triggered the cameras on numerous occasions going the opposite direction (face on) and never had a ticket.

The main killer on the A9 is people still thinking they are on a dual carriageway when it is single and they have a head on. Are you sure it was dual carriageway? I would suggest you have been nabbed because your doing 71 on a single carriageway. Double check your location, you may be mistaken? It may also be a camera van (aka Talivan) rather than a fixed gatso, in which case the operator would have singled you out because of the trailer. A lot of my van drivers get caught out this way as the limit on a dual carriageway for a goods vehicle below 7.5t is 60! The camera operators know that not many people know this and get easy results.

Either way take the points. The A9 is getting a lot of media attention at present and the law will more than likely make an example of you if you try and contest.

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Then my argument is... if there is no crash barrier dividing the four lanes the speed limit is 60 not 70 mph.
It doesn't have to be a crash barrier, just a physical divider, could be a grass strip, ditch, concrete etc. Without a barrier, its a single carriageway & the national speed limit is 60. Dual carriageways are usually identified as such by signs.
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It doesn't have to be a crash barrier, just a physical divider, could be a grass strip, ditch, concrete etc. Without a barrier, its a single carriageway & the national speed limit is 60. Dual carriageways are usually identified as such by signs.
Which is what I originally agreed back here..



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Which is what I originally agreed back here..



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I must have missed that. A bit out of character

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I must have missed that. A bit out of character

Have you got that boat fixed yet? You missed a great weekend
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You havent read all my posts have you ? ... for your benefit .. I dont know what speed I was doing 'exactly' on the A road
I have. It started by you saying you misjudged the car speed in front and had to boot down a little more than you thought at the time you got pictured, fair enough mistakes happen.... Then you later said that you knew you were doing 70 (speeding) but thought you'd get away with it because it wouldn't pick up you were towing. I think that's why he replied what he did as in that scenario you'd deserve the points, in the first I could understand why you may have felt aggrieved.

Take the points and move on. If we all tried to wriggle out (not suggesting your trying that) on a technicality as some have advised, then were really doing something wrong :nono:

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It doesn't have to be a crash barrier, just a physical divider, could be a grass strip, ditch, concrete etc. Without a barrier, its a single carriageway & the national speed limit is 60. Dual carriageways are usually identified as such by signs.
Yup. For official confirmation check

https://www.gov.uk/general-rules-all...ays-133-to-143
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