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Old 06 August 2013, 15:52   #31
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TG, I had a slice from a carbide disc and a day or so later my jaw started hurting. It felt like I'd grown four sets of wisdom teeth as I couldn't close ( and bite on food ) anymore. Lasted two to three days. Lockjaw ( tetanus ). Did I go to the doctor? Nope. I was later told by my doc that I was stupid. Don't get me wrong, I admire your handiwork, just don't end up losing more than you bargained for.
Oh doom and scaremongering. I'm sure you'll be fine. Just get it checked.
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Old 06 August 2013, 16:08   #32
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You might be surprised by waiting times in ED's. They are generally shorter than you'd be led to believe by the media, especially for relatively minor stuff. Every patient needs to be treated and discharged or admitted within 4 hours. That means most EDs are actually averaging 2 to 2 1/2 hours to discharge minor injurys. That said EDs have been struggling a bit since Christmas and there are times where some have ambulances queueing to handover patients.

Superglue - very little difference between the medical product and superglue, but the medical product will have been tested for impurities and will have been sterilised. Superglue would probably not have been used for that wound because (a) it moves a lot and glue may not be great and (b) it looked quite bloody which makes it hard to close and the glue set right.

DONT USE PVA or BOSTIC etc.

May be worth a trip to the GP if you can get an appointment or a walkin centre etc. They can take a look and see if there is any sign of infection and get some antibugs in you if need be...

Assuming you had all your childhood tetnuses you probably don't need any tetnus booster. if there is doubt they'd give you one.
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All superglue is sterile and it will set through a blood soaked cut
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TG, I had a slice from a carbide disc and a day or so later my jaw started hurting. It felt like I'd grown four sets of wisdom teeth as I couldn't close ( and bite on food ) anymore. Lasted two to three days. Lockjaw ( tetanus ).

I work with ground engaging equipment all the time, and in a rural environment often. I also work with rusty components often, both are known to harbour this bacterium, so I get a booster every few years to help prevent catching it as inevitably as the OP has proved you will cut yourself at some point and be exposed. If its a deep cut, you have a l;ot more exposure to large quantities of pathogens entering your circulation, although the act of blood pumping from the wound will clear most, it doesent stop infection from other particles as Nos and others have said, so its a definate one for checking at A&E from me too !

You have some balls to take pics of your hanywork TG ... now go get some professionals to keep an eye on you .. and get a Tet jab too .. its probably the first thing you'll get when you go in anyway
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Not sure how you are defining sterile! The glue would use the water in the bacteria cell to set and so is bacteriacidal. HOWEVER, in the same way as 70% or 90% alcohol solutions aren't sterile because either fungal spores or bacterial spores are resistant to the osmotic effect then cyanoacrilates would be subject to the same issues... ...although I've read that the polymerisation may actually bind in part of the cell which might make it tricky to do much pathogenic. However, according to this study: Antibacterial properties of cyanoacrylate tissue adhesive: Does the polymerization reaction play a role? Romero IL, Malta JB, Silva CB, Mimica LM, Soong KH, Hida RY - Indian J Ophthalmol its not effective against all forms of bacteria ( Pseudomonas aeruginosa is a fairly common pathogen and is found on skin and soil so not unknown in dirty wounds etc. ). Medical grade cyanoacrylates are subjected to additional sterilisation (Gamma or EO) during manufacture.

Cyanoacrilates set in the presence of water -so they will set in the presence of blood no problem but you need the two surfaces to stay in contact - if its bleeding too much the two surfaces wont join the blood will just set the cyanoacrilate. You need to be able to stop the blood 'flowing' while the bond sets.
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Not exactly surgery
but a few months ago I was asked at the 11th hour by the RNLI if I could stand in for someone to be an after dinner guest speaker to about 40 v.i.ps about an hours drive away from where i live as they had been admitted into hospital that afternoon .

Yeah No problem i said cant let the rnli down , quick shower , gets changed into tuxedo , puts on tie , jumps in car , stops at a set of traffic lights just down the road ,

Notices thumb nail getting a bit long so bites a bit off ,,
Nail seemed a bit more crunchy than normal ,, looks in rear view mirror & one of my front teeth s just disintegrated completely ,, : 0. xxxxxg ell
As we have an emergency dental kit goes back home to try fix it
At least it i had had it root filled about 20 years ago so there was no pain,
Can't find dental kit wife thinks she might of binned it last year : (
Wife says you can't go like that you look a right xxxx , what you gonna do ?
Trouble was as well as looking like a pirate I could speak right either ,
Bit of deep thinking ,,,? I had just fitted out a new shower room a few days before so goes into the garden finds a bit of old tile ,
out with the angle grinder and fashions a new false tooth to fit
& sticks it back in with some glass fibre resin .

I dident do a bad job as it lasted 2 weeks until I could get to the dentist though she was a bit miffed that the grp clogged up her drill bit
colour wasent a bad match either ,,, good job the tile was a cream coloured one : )
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It they are not devolving stitches then you need to remove them or soon you'll have puss weeping out of the holes.

Just thinking, do you do seat covers.....
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It they are not devolving stitches then you need to remove them or soon you'll have puss weeping out of the holes.

Just thinking, do you do seat covers.....
no need to worry - the finger might fall off before the stitches need removed!

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Not sure how you are defining sterile! The glue would use the water in the bacteria cell to set and so is bacteriacidal. HOWEVER, in the same way as 70% or 90% alcohol solutions aren't sterile because either fungal spores or bacterial spores are resistant to the osmotic effect then cyanoacrilates would be subject to the same issues... ...although I've read that the polymerisation may actually bind in part of the cell which might make it tricky to do much pathogenic. However, according to this study: Antibacterial properties of cyanoacrylate tissue adhesive: Does the polymerization reaction play a role? Romero IL, Malta JB, Silva CB, Mimica LM, Soong KH, Hida RY - Indian J Ophthalmol its not effective against all forms of bacteria ( Pseudomonas aeruginosa is a fairly common pathogen and is found on skin and soil so not unknown in dirty wounds etc. ). Medical grade cyanoacrylates are subjected to additional sterilisation (Gamma or EO) during manufacture.

Cyanoacrilates set in the presence of water -so they will set in the presence of blood no problem but you need the two surfaces to stay in contact - if its bleeding too much the two surfaces wont join the blood will just set the cyanoacrilate. You need to be able to stop the blood 'flowing' while the bond sets.
To many big words for me. I'm talking from experience not on what I read
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