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Old 06 September 2006, 02:18   #11
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... I love bear hunting from the ground with my bow, which typically involves shot distances of 15-20 yards or less...
...and I hope, one day, a Bear tears your feckin' throat out.
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Old 06 September 2006, 07:50   #12
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I'm not tying to suggest that this is some form of karma or legalism at work. Rather, quite simply that when you continually put yourself in harms way the chances of catastrophe occuring, even while doing something 'low risk' increase dramatically. Simple probability from a statistical point of view. There is nothing judgemental about either my statement or that of Ray Mears.

I wouldn't say walking down stairs or driving to the chip shop is putting yourself in harm's way!!!

Anyway what has the bear done to you? Are you going to eat it???
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Old 06 September 2006, 09:01   #13
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I wouldn't say walking down stairs or driving to the chip shop is putting yourself in harm's way!!!
Walking down stairs is a fairly low risk endeavor, but has an element of risk nonetheless. Why else would building codes require handrails? For the elderly it can be a high risk activity. Add toys to the top of those steps and it suddenly becomes a very high risk endeavor for people of any age.


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Anyway what has the bear done to you?
What in the world does whether an animal did something to you have to do with your decision to use its resources?

Do you own any leather goods of any kind? Did those cattle that supplied the leather do anything to you?

Are you a vegetarian? If not, what did any of the animals you have eaten do to you?

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Are you going to eat it???
Of course! Bear meat is delicious. You've never tried it? Lots of people over here haven't either. Nonetheless if you ever find yourself visiting this colony here, look me up and I'll cook up a nice bear steak for you.

Additionally, it is illegal for a hunter to waste edible game meat here.

Even if bear meat were not edible, I'd have no qualms about legally taking one for the sake of it's beautiful fur. Some people are not aware of this, but bears make absolutely beautiful rugs and wall hangings. As do wolves (which are highly inedible).

In Manitoba (as in much of Western Canada) there is an overpopulation of both wolves and bears. As a result, in many are destroyed by Natural Resources officials due to encroahment in populated areas. When this happens, those animal carcasses are simply disposed of and the resources from them are wasted. Legalised hunting of these animals significantly reduces the #s that Natural Resources would otherwise destroy and waste, while enriching the lives (meat and furs) of those who harvest them.
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Ah well, you see hunting aint PC in UK these days so its difficult for yer average Brit to get their head around living somewhere where its postively encouraged.

Not sure that I would want to eat Bear but certainly very fond of Moose!
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I see. I didn't think of that. Sometimes I get swept up in facts rather than sticking to emotionalism.
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who encroached onto who....

Without a doubt Prairie Tuber , you put up a good argument but when all is said & done , isn't it the over population of man , encroaching into the territory of bears & wolves that is the real story here ? Left to it's own devices , nature wouldn't normally get so out of balance. ( ps I've got nothing against Canadians . As Spike Milligan said , " everybody's got to be somewhere " ).
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Without a doubt Prairie Tuber , you put up a good argument but when all is said & done , isn't it the over population of man , encroaching into the territory of bears & wolves that is the real story here ? Left to it's own devices , nature wouldn't normally get so out of balance. ( ps I've got nothing against Canadians . As Spike Milligan said , " everybody's got to be somewhere " ).
Difference is Bern that in the UK man over-encroached into the native wildlife's territory hundreds of years ago and wiped 'em out. In Canada there is still lots of open space, given that 80% of a population somewhere around 30m (or half that of the UK) lives within 200km of the US Border. I've never been to Manitoba but I'm guessing there is plenty of un-encroached land for the bears, wolves and moose!
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...certainly very fond of Moose!
I'm still coming to terms with sitting in a British theme pub in Canada, in the company of two Canadians and a Brit... and the Brit eating a moose burger!
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I am NOT a veggie and I am NOT anti hunting providing it is done in as humane a manner as possible and nothing goes to waste.
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I'm still coming to terms with sitting in a British theme pub in Canada, in the company of two Canadians and a Brit... and the Brit eating a moose burger!
Do you ever respond to PM's from Canadian residents these days?
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