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Old 17 October 2005, 05:57   #21
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Gavin you do seem to have a very large chip on you solder, but then you would not be the first Irish person to!
You praise every thing Jag, USA & Bling it would seam, even to the not so pleasant Gippos we have to put up with over hear!
But I do not suppose you will change!

I have been told that UK armed forces is changing to the Merc G wagon!
Any one else heard the same?
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Old 17 October 2005, 06:05   #22
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I have been told that UK armed forces is changing to the Merc G wagon!
Any one else heard the same?
I do believe that a change is on the cards... Small Steyr 4x4 vehicles are being in a few applications where Land Rovers were the only choice.
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Old 17 October 2005, 06:12   #23
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If you look at Yank deaths in Iraq maybe you would change your mind? They will never be a substitute for a tank!!!
you missed the point i think.....since when has a landy been a tank...

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look at where the american troops are operating and how many there are when you speak about casualties.
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Old 17 October 2005, 06:26   #24
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Mi mait gARfey iz ay Hummmer , fkk mee duz e penn! Eye menshund hiz OB tooo im annd de gyt kicced mee inn de bollix! Eye down't fink dat's verry anndyl
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landys

the rn bomb teams use landrovers for lots of reasons, reliability is not one of them...
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you missed the point i think.....since when has a landy been a tank...

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look at where the american troops are operating and how many there are when you speak about casualties.
No IF you read my posts properly you would see I have NOT missed the point!!! Soft skinned vehicles are used where appropriate - when not send in a tank!!!

I DID say that SAS Landrover's don't even have doors - NEVER said it was a tank.....

And for the record I did NOT start criticising the Hummer - only the poncy H2 Hummer lookalike!!!

The Hummer is a good vehicle for what it was intended to do - unfortunately it is not a general purpose vehicle which is what the Yanks are trying to use them for - it just won't fit down little back streets in the 3rd world countries they send them to!!!
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............. In situation where hard skinned vehicles ARE needed we send in tanks!!!.....
Are you in the army or just an expert consultant Des
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No IF you read my posts properly you would see I have NOT missed the point!!! Soft skinned vehicles are used where appropriate - when not send in a tank!!!
I DID say that SAS Landrover's don't even have doors - NEVER said it was a tank.....

And for the record I did NOT start criticising the Hummer - only the poncy H2 Hummer lookalike!!!

The Hummer is a good vehicle for what it was intended to do - unfortunately it is not a general purpose vehicle which is what the Yanks are trying to use them for - it just won't fit down little back streets in the 3rd world countries they send them to!!!
sorry cods but i said i would rather be in a hummer than a landy.....quote, but if there was a choice of vehicle then a tank would be preferable to either of those of course.

codders, did you serve in the forces, did you drive a landy as part of your job in the forces.........yes/no......if so when and with who? or did you have a mate in the forces.......

i used a landy a lot in the forces, swb and lwb, and frankly in my honest opinion, what a pile of cack, sitting on fuel tanks, lwb with steering that would rip your thumbs off, gutless engines that would not pull the skin of a rice pudding

and before you go on about how good landies are and try to give me a bashing i am on my third so i think i am entitled to say they are good but not brill, had a disco 200, 300 & TD5

the sas use a variety of vehicles depending on the mission they are going on. you mention they use landys but they also used to use sherpas when i was on the inside. footprints all over em.
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In situation where hard skinned vehicles ARE needed we send in tanks!!!
Or an armoured personnel carrier (APC). Tanks have a serious limitation - in urban wafare situations, they get stuck in towns where the roads have tight corners
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