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Old 18 September 2007, 17:03   #31
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I think what we have here... is failure to communicate!



I never had any issue with your concrete block statement.
Very true!!!
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Old 18 September 2007, 17:20   #32
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Would you care to comment on the rest of that post?

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Thats a very common misconception. The impact is NOT 140mph.

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It might be true to say that from the perspective of one car the impact is equivalent to hitting an immovable mass at 70 mph however in the example of two cars each travelling at 70mph the relative closing speed IS 140 mph... that is to say that two cars heading towards each other at 70mph each will create the same impact as one car travelling at 140mph hitting the other car when it is stationary.
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No no no!!!
Come on, I went to the trouble to derive the proof for my statement for you, you owe me and the rest of the readers a concession at the very least!
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Old 18 September 2007, 17:22   #33
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When you said a stationary car I thought you meant an immovable object - so many people think that 2 cars colliding head on at 70mph = 1 car hitting an immovable object at 140mph. so I jumped to the conclusion that was what you meant as well - sorry!!!
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I jumped to the conclusion that was what you meant as well - sorry!!!


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When I am wrong I always admit it - there has been the very rare occasion - the reason being I make sure of my facts BEFORE I post anything!!!

or perhaps you meant to say that you will say sorry if pushed and pushed or it is laid out clear that you were wrong so you cant deny it?!?

nice clear description Alexm well done
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or perhaps you meant to say that you will say sorry if pushed and pushed or it is laid out clear that you were wrong so you cant deny it?!?

nice clear description Alexm well done
Not at all but if that's the typical reaction I get................
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Cod - the reason for a detailed accident investigation is fairly straight forward - if as you imply in your message the police were wilfully negligent in their pursuit then there is a potential manslaughter charge their against the relevant officers - such a charge would be difficult without all the correctly gathered legal evidence. There was also one surviver (I believe in the suspect vehicle) - and he may be subject to prosecution also. I can imagine your post here about police incompetence (or cover ups) in a years time when the prosecution collapses because the removed the evidence so as not to hold you up. So - wind your neck in and just be grateful you weren't heading down the m-way at 3am and suddenly meet something coming the other way.

This accident happeaned just down the road from us and the car had been chased from Penhow - its only 1 - 2 miles to the motorway from here. We have had a lot of police activity here at night recently due to car crime armed robbery etc all over the past 2 weeks (when I called the police when my car was being broken into at 5am two weeks ago 3 police cars were all here within 3 mins - not bad for a rural village)

The scary thing about this one was that my wife had left for cardiff airport at 3:30 am when me and the kids woke up at 7am and turned on the radio and heard the story your mind starts to wonder - only made worse when mobile goes straight to answer machine - luckily she rang when she landed before panic set in any further.

If any of you know the Coldra roundabout there is no way you could mistake the entry exit slip roads...
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Thats why I am against the Police chasing car thieves etc - that's what they often want and it's so tragic when someone innocent gets killed - I always USED to think it was quite right for the Police to chase the little shits - until I saw a car being chased almost hit a car coming the other way with 3 kids in it - must have missed by inches - then I totally changed my thinking - most nicked cars are worth a few hundred quid at most - is a human life REALLY worth that?

Gald your family were ok Scrumdown!!!
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Hmm... arguments aside I dont think many of you can deny Codders has a bit of a point here.

The problem is that our cops and society are soo litigious becoming that they (cops) cant take any chances when it comes to evidence gathering.

The big problem is that very often they still fook up proceedings no matter how long they've taken to gather that evidence
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Maybe they should use a few of those expensive Police helicopters to catch the scrotes. That is after they've been fitted with TOW missiles and 20mm Gattling cannons.
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