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Old 17 September 2007, 17:19   #11
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'cause you get idiots rubbernecking and crashing on the otherside
Very true but parking the fire engines in the right place would stop them from seeing things.
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Old 17 September 2007, 17:20   #12
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People often DIE when such major disruption is caused - imagine some poor sod having a heart attack but the ambulance can't get to him becuase of the gridlock - it happens - especially when there is such massive and major disruption. Just a little bit more important than Emmerdale eh???
That's what the hard shoulder is for.
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Two cars hitting head on. Both probably doing around (at least) 70mph. Therefore probably 140mph at least impact..

Not a lot left of the cars or people involved. Is it wise to let people see it on the other side of the road. I bet it was a horrible sight!
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Old 17 September 2007, 17:35   #14
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Yet again they found it neccesary to close off one of the busiest roads in the UK at rush hour.
What with this and the tax on fuel going up, you're really having a shit week!

Don't you have anything important to worry about?
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People often DIE when such major disruption is caused - imagine some poor sod having a heart attack but the ambulance can't get to him becuase of the gridlock - it happens - especially when there is such massive and major disruption. Just a little bit more important than Emmerdale eh???
Actually on the plus side I'd rather someone has a heart attack at 5mph than 85mph
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Cod - the reason for a detailed accident investigation is fairly straight forward - if as you imply in your message the police were wilfully negligent in their pursuit then there is a potential manslaughter charge their against the relevant officers - such a charge would be difficult without all the correctly gathered legal evidence. There was also one surviver (I believe in the suspect vehicle) - and he may be subject to prosecution also. I can imagine your post here about police incompetence (or cover ups) in a years time when the prosecution collapses because the removed the evidence so as not to hold you up. So - wind your neck in and just be grateful you weren't heading down the m-way at 3am and suddenly meet something coming the other way.
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Two cars hitting head on. Both probably doing around (at least) 70mph. Therefore probably 140mph at least impact..

Not a lot left of the cars or people involved. Is it wise to let people see it on the other side of the road. I bet it was a horrible sight!

Thats a very common misconception. The impact is NOT 140mph. A car hitting another car of similar mass each doing 70mph is the same as a single car hitting a concrete block at 70mph - the speeds cancel each other out.
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Thats a very common misconception. The impact is NOT 140mph. A car hitting another car of similar mass each doing 70mph is the same as a single car hitting a concrete block at 70mph - the speeds cancel each other out.
If the speeds cancel each other out,would there be an impact?
or is it = to twice the mass at 70 mph hitting the block?

No idea just interested now long time since i pushed trolleys down ramps
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Thats a very common misconception. The impact is NOT 140mph. A car hitting another car of similar mass each doing 70mph is the same as a single car hitting a concrete block at 70mph - the speeds cancel each other out.
It might be true to say that from the perspective of one car the impact is equivalent to hitting an immovable mass at 70 mph however in the example of two cars each travelling at 70mph the relative closing speed IS 140 mph... that is to say that two cars heading towards each other at 70mph each will create the same impact as one car travelling at 140mph hitting the other car when it is stationary.
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