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Old 17 March 2009, 07:39   #1
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Petition Against Imminant Canadian Seal Cull

If you are against the cull , please visit

https://community.hsus.org/humane/no...er_id=31598930

and sign the petition .
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Old 18 March 2009, 00:58   #2
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Better still, sign here:

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/...seal-hunt.html
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Hey Prairie ! Start your own threads.........

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How can clubbing seals to death ever be considered humane? It is sickening.

Fair enough a small group of hunters shooting them with a 308 for food - that is pretty instant but a baseball bat? Come on!!!

They are mammals - it would be no different to clubbing labrador pups to death!!!
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Codders, would seal fur be good under my drysuit ?

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The hakapik is a very humane tool for the harvesting of animals. As for as the objection that it is wrong to harvest seals because they are mammals, that simply doesn't hold water. If you purchase and/or eat red meat, you are a contractor to the killing of mammals. 'Seal hunting' is a poor term it is certainly not a 'hunt'. 'Sealing' or 'Seal Culling' or ' Seal Harvesting' is a much more accurate term. Some basic facts are here;


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_hunting
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If used properly maybe - but after a few hours of mass murder the wielder is bound to become tired and not use the tool as effectively.

How popular is seal meat in Canada? Do you buy it in the local supermarket? It seems to me it is mainly exported and used for pet food - not exactly killing animals for food is it? Even the koreans won't touch it!!!
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If used properly maybe
The sealers are well versed and trained in how to use a hakapik properly. However, the greenpeace activists who posed as sealers and made the video of themselves cruelly and clumsily bludgeoning baby seals to death (the fraudulent video that sparked the international protests) clearly did not know how to use a hakapik properly.


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- but after a few hours of mass murder...
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How popular is seal meat in Canada? Do you buy it in the local supermarket?
Have never tried it and have no intenion to, but that cera-nly does not impel me to try to prevent other people from eating seal meat. While I have not seen it in the supermarrket, their is obviously a market demand for seal meat, since it does all get sold.


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It seems to me it is mainly exported and used for pet food - not exactly killing animals for food is it?
You just contracted yourself within the same sentence - which is a remarkable accomplishment!

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Even the koreans won't touch it!!!
Supposing the majority of the seal meat is used for dog and cat food, so what? Those cats and dogs will be fed regardless, and they will be fed onew form of animal flesh or anoher, since that is what their diet requires. So when you think about it, those Koreans will ulimately be ingesting the seal meat afterall.
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As for as the objection that it is wrong to harvest seals because they are mammals, that simply doesn't hold water. If you purchase and/or eat red meat, you are a contractor to the killing of mammals.
PT - you know you have been here with this sort of discussion before and got a quite alarming response:
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although if it was down to me I could never bring myself to kill an animal unless it was attacking me. I don't even like killing fish. To be honest though I wouldn't have the same reservations about killing certain people in the right situation!!!
In many ways I applaud his honesty - but I don't understand the hypocrisy of many in our country - we are horrified at animal welfare conditions on farms, but don't go "veggie"; a significant number have a problem with hunting wild animals - but the same people will argue for "free range" farming conditions that give better conditions that better mimic those in the wild.

I doubt the seal issue is as simple as either side would put it. But I accept that culling of wild animals is a fact of life both for the conservation of the animals themselves (and other species they prey on or compete with for prey) and for the maintainance of food stocks and natural resources, especially where natural predators are no longer able to maintain population equilibria - often due to man's influence. Deer, rabbit and fox are all culled in this country for those reasons - as have badger and hedgehog.

Given the objection of so many people in the UK to "Brussels" meddling in our lives I am surprised also that we feel we should meddle in the day-to-day law making of another nation.
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PT - you know you have been here with this sort of discussion before and got a quite alarming response:
I certainly did get an alarming (in fact a shrill) response when I've pointed this fact out previously. Yet no one was able to dispute that fact.

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I doubt the seal issue is as simple as either side would put it. But I accept that culling of wild animals is a fact of life both for the conservation of the animals themselves (and other species they prey on or compete with for prey) and for the maintainance of food stocks and natural resources, especially where natural predators are no longer able to maintain population equilibria - often due to man's influence. Deer, rabbit and fox are all culled in this country for those reasons - as have badger and hedgehog.

Given the objection of so many people in the UK to "Brussels" meddling in our lives I am surprised also that we feel we should meddle in the day-to-day law making of another nation.
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