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Old 31 January 2014, 08:43   #21
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And you are right - wiki is really not the place to base all your judgements
Yes, especially when the wiki link he used states:

"The phrase "Pan-pan Medico" is used in some older reference books, but is no longer in official use"

In the interests of keeping this discussion civil, I'm going to check this one with some current SRC course providers (like SPR ) and I'll run it past one of our MRCC Heads. I'll report back with the current accepted procedure.

Scotsnomad, welcome to RIBnet. Your previous employment will give you insights that I'm sure we will be glad to learn from. However, arriving fresh and laying down the law is going to upset people. I don't see anything definitive in your links (I have some equally wishy-washy links that say Medico is "gone") and I'd prefer this debate didn't sink into Does-doesn't territory.
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Old 31 January 2014, 09:28   #22
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I'm going to check this one with some current SRC course providers (like SPR ) and I'll run it past one of our MRCC Heads. I'll report back with the current accepted procedure.
You will need to go back to 1998 Wilk when it was officially stopped. The phrase was only ever used in UK waters anyway. This change was more to do with the GPO who used to handle the phone links - they gave way to the new technology of call handling. The RYA and other bodies only followed this up after 2001.
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I'd like to be clear that I am simply attempting to bring peace and closure to this thread

So far, word is back from one SRC course provider. The first important point made was that the structure and support provided by PPMedico is still available. The second point was that the use of PPM is not currently taught under the CEPT SRC Syllabus: http://www.ecodocdb.dk/Docs/doc98/of...d/REC3104E.DOC

Medical issues are treated under Urgency Page 7 Section D1.2

The UK is a CEPT signatory.

Most importantly - if you call a PAN PAN MEDICO in UK waters, someone will help you.

PS: How am I doing here Poly? Another paragraph?
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The way I see it at the moment is that, unfortunately, you're ALL right...

That and if there's any more squabbling, someone is getting sent up to JK for a caning
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PS: How am I doing here Poly? Another paragraph?
Was that a half hearted attempt at being a clone. You KNOW you need to try harder!
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Was that a half hearted attempt at being a clone. You KNOW you need to try harder!
Oh no, I'm a self confessed dilettante...
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Pan pan medico was stopped, as stated when DSC become the norm.
See page 8 on the attached booklet for correct info on requesting radio medical advice in the UK.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/mca/mca_msi_le...for_print_.pdf
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Ultimately though it doesn't matter either way. Pan Pan Medico may be deprecated, but it will still work. Old people will probably continue to remember it and may even use it from time to time, but youngsters just won't be taught it.

Not really worth shouting the odds about really.
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Old people will probably continue to remember it and may even use it from time to time, but youngsters just won't be taught it.
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C'mon - admit it now John - you do not like these new fangled flare things and prefer a proper burning tar barrel on the deck.
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Ultimately though it doesn't matter either way. Pan Pan Medico may be deprecated, but it will still work. Old people will probably continue to remember it and may even use it from time to time, but youngsters just won't be taught it. Not really worth shouting the odds about really.

A big plus one to the words of reason at last. Thank you John once again!!

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