Outhill copies..

tcwozere · 23 January 2006, 17:57

I've just listed my Outhill Jockey seat on ebay, and when I went to the Outhill site for the measurements I noticed they were carrying a warning about product copies by some established names..(link.) Whatever happened to the copyright law, or doesn't it exist in boatbuilding??

Kernow Buoy · 23 January 2006, 17:59

Whoa...

They've certainly named names!

Dirk Diggler · 23 January 2006, 18:19

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Originally Posted by tcwozere

Whatever happened to the copyright law, or doesn't it exist in boatbuilding??

Leeway would probably be the man to ask, I'd be interested to hear his views on the subject!

Rogue Wave · 23 January 2006, 18:20

I think copyright only exists with a GRP product if the splash (copied Item) will not fit into the original mould. So all you have to do is stretch it widthways a little bit or maybe put a little fin on the rear and you haven't violated copyright law. It's also an expensive thing to enforce and it happens a fair bit.
The ethical situation is up to oneself I guess

codprawn · 23 January 2006, 18:23

Thats the whole problem with designs and patents etc - they often aren't worth the paper they are written on - what it really comes down to in the end is who can pay for the biggest legal team.

As Rogue says - a few minor changes are often all you need.

Jono Garton · 23 January 2006, 21:41

I dont think the copy right laws stand with Solent and Humber with Outhill

I belive the pure fact that Humber and Solent put Fiberglass in to their consoles and outhill just use kleenex tisues would be the main issue.

Kernow Buoy · 23 January 2006, 21:45

[QUOTE=Jono Garton
I belive the pure fact that Humber and Solent put Fiberglass in to their consoles and outhill just use kleenex tisues would be the main issue. [/QUOTE

tcwozere · 24 January 2006, 06:33

ok, I understand the general concept that it would have to be an exact replica to be regarded as a copy.. So, for Outhill to name the copiers, then they must regard them as exact copies, otherwise the companies named would ask for their removal from the list..

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Originally Posted by Jono Garton

I belive the pure fact that Humber and Solent put Fiberglass in to their consoles and outhill just use kleenex tisues would be the main issue.

Apart from the orange ones..

ADS · 24 January 2006, 08:51

I must admit I think Outhill consoles are abit over priced and over rated. They do look nice I guess, but there are cheaper alternatives such as those made by leeway that do job just as well. Im not sure outhill consoles are good value for money, mine is only a couple of years old and now has all sorts of crazing on it, and it was probably £600+

Alex

Searider · 24 January 2006, 10:36

I had an orange one on my Searider - after 6 years the colour was very blotchy.

I don't think they do orange any more?

LeewayComposite · 24 January 2006, 11:55

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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler

Leeway would probably be the man to ask, I'd be interested to hear his views on the subject!

Hightower · 24 January 2006, 12:10

From what I belive, the Solent's consoles are a Porter/own design.

Jono Garton · 24 January 2006, 14:17

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Originally Posted by Hightower

From what I belive, the Solent's consoles are a Porter/own design.

Rogue Wave · 24 January 2006, 14:27

Same as the hulls then

Hightower · 24 January 2006, 15:30

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Originally Posted by Jono Garton

Only what I was told, Pal!

The Garfish · 24 January 2006, 15:52

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Originally Posted by LeewayComposite

taik noe notiss ov dat diggi nobbur. he finks yew splasht a fantum butt ifn i remembir corekly fantums didunt av a banarner shaypt runnin sirfiss.

gArf

Jono Garton · 24 January 2006, 16:36

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Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

Same as the hulls then

What you mean like the 5.4 SR that "Search & Rescue" not "Sea Rider"

Jonny Fuller · 25 January 2006, 10:49

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Originally Posted by The Garfish

taik noe notiss ov dat diggi nobbur. he finks yew splasht a fantum butt ifn i remembir corekly fantums didunt av a banarner shaypt runnin sirfiss.

gArf

Ere we go

Rogue Wave · 25 January 2006, 12:09

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Originally Posted by Jono Garton

What you mean like the 5.4 SR that "Search & Rescue" not "Sea Rider"

Are you accusing me of splashing a Searider

Jono Garton · 25 January 2006, 16:27

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Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

Are you accusing me of splashing a Searider

NO