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Old 05 December 2006, 19:18   #11
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We are near to one pole (which we call North) - but the issue is when/why did the convention arise that North is up/top?
Well duh! Obviously, we're on the top or the water would fall out of the ocean and we wouldn't be able to use our boats!
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Old 05 December 2006, 22:40   #14
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I think Hightower's question may be more philasophical than that. We are near to one pole (which we call North) - but the issue is when/why did the convention arise that North is up/top?

Is it just that in our empire building days we dominated and were in the "north" so that became the top. If by chance the aussies had been the "centre of the world" in the early days of navigation would the UK be described as down under - and all globes made upside down?

Or am I confusing the issue.
Actually a long, long, long time ago there was a guy named North, Richard North, they used to call him Dick for short, and he loved to... well, how can I put this.. he had a girlfriend.. and he loved to.. and North just generally ended up top, and the rest is History....
There was also a guy named West, who the expression "go west young man, go west" was coined after, but that's another story...
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Yes totally - it's all about the way the planet is inclined as we go around the sun.

Of course the whole Universe could be the wrong way around!!!
But (and I could be wrong here as I haven't put too much thought into this) - isn't that just because conventionally we describe the earth/rotation about the sun in a particular way. If we went back in time and redefined those conventions such that the typical globe had new zealand and the antartic etc at the "top" and europe and canada at the "bottom" would that actually be wrong?
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Well duh! Obviously, we're on the top or the water would fall out of the ocean and we wouldn't be able to use our boats!
Must be why the sea is quite deep here?

Somewhere or other I have a photo of the Falklands clearly shown as being right on top, but I can't lay my hands on it right now
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But (and I could be wrong here as I haven't put too much thought into this) - isn't that just because conventionally we describe the earth/rotation about the sun in a particular way. If we went back in time and redefined those conventions such that the typical globe had new zealand and the antartic etc at the "top" and europe and canada at the "bottom" would that actually be wrong?
Remember also which way a compass points which was prob the first reason of all they decided which way was up!!!
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Well are we? Is there a Top and Bottom of our planet Earth?

And while I'm on such a philosophical subject.

What's on the outside of the Universe?
..........lookin' down on creation,
and the only explanation I have found,
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