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Old 14 December 2005, 09:01   #21
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Well I am British and proud of it!!! Once upon a time it was ALL Britain anyway!!!
......and also over 40% of the world's surface. Wonder where it all went??.
Should never have been defeated by a bunch of Davey Crockets?

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Old 14 December 2005, 14:08   #22
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Well I am British and proud of it!!! Once upon a time it was ALL Britain anyway!!!
YOU'RE a Welshman and proud to be British?
Blimey.

So, we have at least one Scotsman who will ADMIT to being British
One Welshman proud to be British.

We need an Irishman (presumably from the North) proud to be British
and, possibly the hardest one of all (in the current climate), an Englishman proud to be British,and we're there!

What's so hard about forming a nation?
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Old 14 December 2005, 14:25   #23
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......and also over 40% of the world's surface. Wonder where it all went??.
Should never have been defeated by a bunch of Davey Crockets?

Jonathan
I think you will find 2 World Wars had a lot to do with it - we save the world - literally - and what thanks do we get????
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Old 14 December 2005, 14:32   #24
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YOU'RE a Welshman and proud to be British?
Blimey.

So, we have at least one Scotsman who will ADMIT to being British
One Welshman proud to be British.

We need an Irishman (presumably from the North) proud to be British
and, possibly the hardest one of all (in the current climate), an Englishman proud to be British,and we're there!

What's so hard about forming a nation?
Well unlike some other Welsh and Scotsmen I don't see why we should be forced into our own little corners by a bunch of heathen barbarians when the whole country was ours!!!

In fact despite what most "English" people think they are actually of Celtic decent!!!

"An average English person, like an average Scot or Welshman, is more likely to be Celtic or Scandinavian in ancestry than Anglo-Saxon. It seems the Anglo-Saxons greatest legacy is not genetic, perhaps not even cultural but linguistic."

Having said that things are changing fast - will soon be Bangladeshi or even Lithuanian if TB carries on much longer!!!
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Old 15 December 2005, 10:06   #25
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I think you will find 2 World Wars had a lot to do with it - we save the world - literally - and what thanks do we get????
It's this sort of reactionary rubbish that gets the UK international lapdog status - Two world wars so completely bankrupted the UK that we have to kiss the big US ass just to be allowed to pretent to be important!
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It's this sort of reactionary rubbish that gets the UK international lapdog status - Two world wars so completely bankrupted the UK that we have to kiss the big US ass just to be allowed to pretent to be important!
Roger that, in spades.
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Old 15 December 2005, 13:27   #27
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It's this sort of reactionary rubbish that gets the UK international lapdog status - Two world wars so completely bankrupted the UK that we have to kiss the big US ass just to be allowed to pretent to be important!
Why is it rubbish??? It happens to be true!!! Your statement is far more "reactionary rubbish"!!!

As to being so bankrupt we have bounced back somewhat - I suggest you study current financial situations a bit more - if ANYONE is bankrupt it is the USA - they owe more than any other country on this Earth - they owe over $8,000,000,000,000 - and it is increasing at $3 billion a day!!!

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

Britain happens to own more of the world than most people realise - we are behind the biggest takeovers and are one of the biggest creditor nations.

The USA is actually in such a state China is sitting on a massive $ mountain they are afraid to cash in because the dollar would collapse.
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Roger that, in spades.
The FACTS speak for themselves!!!
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agree with Codders all the way on this one. The problem is the UK doesnt blow its trumpet loud enough!!!!!!!!!!!.

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Old 15 December 2005, 15:05   #30
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agree with Codders all the way on this one. The problem is the UK doesnt blow its trumpet loud enough!!!!!!!!!!!.

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My God am I seeing things?????

I blame the media ofr destroying what little national pride we had left - the ignorant views held by so many are so damaging!!!
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I blame the media ofr destroying what little national pride we had left -
However true that may be, your Jingoism dosen't help your cause.
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However true that may be, your Jingoism dosen't help your cause.
Obviously not - national pride is a dirty word in Britain - different story in France - Germany - Italy - USA etc etc.

Recent Trafalgar celebrations proved that - must not upset the French!!!
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Obviously not - national pride is a dirty word in Britain - different story in France - Germany - Italy - USA etc etc.

Recent Trafalgar celebrations proved that - must not upset the French!!!

QED...
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QED...
So why do as everyone else - time for a change I reckon!!!!
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