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Old 12 December 2004, 15:33   #11
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Yes indeed it has - but independent suspension at the front does limit offroad ability somewhat.
?? You think independent suspension is inferior to live axle?...why's that?
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Old 12 December 2004, 16:58   #12
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..You think independent suspension is inferior to live axle?...
Because he wears blinkers.

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Old 12 December 2004, 18:13   #13
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Also remember Clarkson testing a load of top 4x4s - the BMW X5 came last - the Rangie won but an old Series 1 landie passed them all.......
Listen, Codpiece, in the real world we all live in, as opposed to the anorak filled one you and your fellow 'Land Rover Monthly', I've got a bigger winch than you, grey bearded, fat b*stard saddos inhabit, nobody gives a toss whether the shed that is a Land Rover Series 1 will get through two inches more mud than a Range Rover, X5, ML500, XC90, Discovery, Jeep Grand Cherokee or anything else with part time, full time, any time you like 4WD. The plain fact of the matter is that I wouldn't use a Series Land Rover to kennel my dog in, let alone drive the vast distances through continental Europe, which is what I have to do as part of my job, and which is why I choose to do it in the luxurious comfort of my independently suspended Range Rover. At least that way when I get out of it at the other end I can still walk upright and hear people talking for the next two weeks. Oh, and when I use it week-in week-out for transporting me and my mates through all sorts of crap off road in the shooting season, as opposed to some rock strewn hill climb with the grey beards on a Sunday morning, it does it without fuss and in unadulterated style. And that's all I and virtually everyone else in a 4WD are interested in.

ps. Hope that wasn't too personal for you
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Old 12 December 2004, 18:27   #14
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Nice one Alan

I just got a Nissan Beaver
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Old 12 December 2004, 19:01   #15
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thatz appropriate!
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Old 12 December 2004, 20:30   #16
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let alone drive the vast distances through continental Europe, which is what I have to do as part of my job, and which is why I choose to do it in the luxurious comfort of my independently suspended Range Rover. At least that way when I get out of it at the other end I can still walk upright and hear people talking for the next two weeks.

I hope you ain't bringing in any of those Illegal immigrants Phil.
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Because he wears blinkers.


Could you explain why you think that???

Now being the proud owner of a new Rangie and an old 110 I STILL say offroad the beam axle is better - ON road it is a totally different matter.

And yes I have taken my Vogue on some horrid stuff - on slippery ground the traction control is amazing - and over boulders - but it will hang a wheel in the air much sooner than my 110 will.

As to Phil's typically obnoxious comments - obviously the new Range Rover is far better for crossing continents - but then again an Aston would be even better!!!
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Old 13 December 2004, 03:28   #18
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.....I've got a bigger winch than you, grey bearded, fat b*stard saddos ........
Oi! How did you know my beard was going grey? I thought the liberal application of "Just for Men" (as recommended by several fellows on here) had discretely covered up the grey bits.....
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Oi! How did you know my beard was going grey? I thought the liberal application of "Just for Men" (as recommended by several fellows on here) had discretely covered up the grey bits.....
Nah, true Landy enthusiasts use old sump oil......
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Listen, Codpiece, in the real world we all live in, as opposed to the anorak filled one you and your fellow 'Land Rover Monthly', I've got a bigger winch than you, grey bearded, fat b*stard saddos inhabit, nobody gives a toss whether the shed that is a Land Rover Series 1 will get through two inches more mud than a Range Rover, X5, ML500, XC90, Discovery, Jeep Grand Cherokee or anything else with part time, full time, any time you like 4WD. The plain fact of the matter is that I wouldn't use a Series Land Rover to kennel my dog in, let alone drive the vast distances through continental Europe, which is what I have to do as part of my job, and which is why I choose to do it in the luxurious comfort of my independently suspended Range Rover. At least that way when I get out of it at the other end I can still walk upright and hear people talking for the next two weeks. Oh, and when I use it week-in week-out for transporting me and my mates through all sorts of crap off road in the shooting season, as opposed to some rock strewn hill climb with the grey beards on a Sunday morning, it does it without fuss and in unadulterated style. And that's all I and virtually everyone else in a 4WD are interested in.

ps. Hope that wasn't too personal for you

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I see your up to your usual style and panache these days Phil, by all means i'll allow you to demonstrate the Superiority of your Rangie this comming weekend at Levington when i'll need a launch and recovery on the steeper than average slipway there, obviously i'll take the photos and be able to post them accordingly and might i take this opportunity to menation what a fine fellow you really are
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