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Old 22 February 2013, 04:39   #11
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Yeah, but there's shit & there's good shit... maaan
these are in Southampton Water....
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Old 22 February 2013, 04:59   #12
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Do you know something the local Oyster- Whelk -Clam fishermen don't

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Oysters, whelks and clams aren't covered/uncovered by the tide. All the crap that floats on the surface of the water will be going into the mussels that Whisper's thinking of.

I personally wouldn't eat them from anywhere with high volumes of water traffic like the Solent. I'll eat them from Normandy and Cornwall, but not anywhere like Poole or the Solent.
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Old 22 February 2013, 05:03   #13
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Oysters, whelks and clams aren't covered/uncovered by the tide.
Oysters are, at least the farmed ones. I think only Falmouth & Mersea dredge for natives.
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Oysters are, at least the farmed ones. I think only Falmouth & Mersea dredge for natives.

Good point, remind me not to eat them!

The way I see it is this. Look at all the scum and diesel etc you see floating in corners in harbours. That's a result of cumulative buildup in places where the crud doesn't disperse.

Shellfish are a place where the crud doesn't disperse too...
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some of the allegedly best mussels are farmed in the Menai Strait nr Anglesey, they even stopped the development of the Beumaris marina. This is an extremely tidal area in terms of height and flow. Yet I know for certain that many of the houses on the Welsh riviera from Menai to Beaumaris drain their sewage straight in to the strait. There are no main drains and they have no room for septic tanks. Go figure!
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some of the allegedly best mussels are farmed in the Menai Strait nr Anglesey, they even stopped the development of the Beumaris marina. This is an extremely tidal area in terms of height and flow. Yet I know for certain that many of the houses on the Welsh riviera from Menai to Beaumaris drain their sewage straight in to the strait. There are no main drains and they have no room for septic tanks. Go figure!
Surly raw sewage would not be allowed directly into the straits as there would be an uproar from the "Greenies" also toilet paper sanitary towels etc would litter the waters and beaches and from what I have seen the Menai Straits appears to be reasonably clean.
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There was uproar but there's been a deferral as there's no solution at present. Even if they lay a main drain along the road all the houses are below and would need pits/pumps to get fluid up to it. Some (ours) have a septic with clean outflow to the water, most don't!

It's no different to boats at sea Steve, they just dump too. Every rag and stick and gin palace does it!
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It's no different to boats at sea Steve, they just dump too. Every rag and stick and gin palace does it!
It's completely different to boats at sea...

The reasons for which I shall list later if someone hasn't beaten me to it between times.
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Regulations ect for the southern area looks like you cannot gather mussels between certain times with a minimum size of 50mm in some areas .
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It's completely different to boats at sea...

The reasons for which I shall list later if someone hasn't beaten me to it between times.
What i mean is that the result is no different to the rag and sticks that go up and down the area.
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