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[Scary Des]

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£216 Million in fines so that is how Gordon has done it Des

[osprey__viper]

........The whole philosophy of speed cameras needs a complete review. I spend my working life driving this countrys roads and talk about an easy target. I agree with cameras if they are kept on legitamate blackspots. However the amount I see especially mobile units just takes the piss

I even got pulled the other night for forgeting to put me number plate on the trailer. Fair enough, it was wrong but I admitted my guilt fitted the plate explained it was the first time in my career it had happened, What did the plod do??? gave me a fixed penalty fine and then a lecture. Tosser.

Camera got me on the A1 at Berwick last year, keeping with the flow so joe public didnt have to over take and flash. 3 points and 60 notes. The limit for that road was 40mph for an hgv, I was doing 46!!!!!!!!!!! the car limit is 60. You work it out.

Anybody who drives is a prime target for gordon brown. Perhaps a little more effort on other crime matters would make this country better than the crap hole it currently is. No wonder im thinking of a life trucking in canada At least there government want me.

Rant over, feel much better now, thanks

Martin

[Scary Des]

Originally Posted by osprey__viper

........I agree with cameras if they are kept on legitamate blackspots. ............

Not even sure if I agree with them my view is that good road design will solve accident black spots, in Germany they use cobble stones in village centres and find that this slows people down without fining them Des

[Matt]

I thought this thread was going to be about Manos.

I completely agree with a zero tolerance policy in specific areas, outside schoolds for example, but I also think that motorways and other arterial roads could have variable speed limits dependant on traffic volume and weather, with the upper limit significantly higher than now. But, you'll never get the 'safety campaigner/tree hugger' types to allow that, probably the same people who object to aircraft overflying their village, or wind turbines.

[Scary Des]

Originally Posted by MadMat

I thought this thread was going to be about Manos.

Who No, I was referring to the fact that road deaths are increasing but still the Government claims that speed cameras work I suppose to a degree they do, but not as intended I wonder when some bright spark will come up with the idea of privatising them Des

[MarkWildey]

I going to stick my neck out here and say I agree with speed camera’s.

If you were a traffic cop I bet there are loads of stories about pulling bits of bodies out of car wrecks where speeding was the cause of the accident

At the end of the day if the speed limit is xx miles per hour and you are doing 5 or 10 miles faster you are in the wrong. Either you are within the speed limit or you are not. And you know the consequence of exceeding it, i.e. points and fine.

Compared to many I don’t do that many miles but I still clock up 30K+ per year and see bad driving all the time from cars, bikes and HGV’s

If you object to who gets the money then don’t speed, its not rocket science!

Cheers

Mark

[Scary Des]

Originally Posted by MarkWildey

I going to stick my neck out here

Stick away
I would agree with you if speed cameras worked, but they don’t road death numbers are increasing In Germany there are 43 million motorists and they kill about the same number of people as we do with only 26 million and they have unlimited speed on some roads
If you follow the government line that speed kills the Germans should have far more casualties. What kills is bad driving and poor roads. Speed has been picked on because it is an easy target to measure and makes the government look like they are doing something In reality if driver training was increased and roads were improved deaths on our roads would go down but this will cost money and Gordon wouldn’t like that Des

[codprawn]

In Port Talbot on the M4 they put up 2 fixed speed cameras - they have caused congestion that just was NOT there before - they have also caused numerous accidents in an area that was trouble free.

Anyone who says "don't speed" is either a liar or a hypocrite.

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Scary Des

Stick away
I would agree with you if speed cameras worked, but they don’t road death numbers are increasing In Germany there are 43 million motorists and they kill about the same number of people as we do with only 26 million and they have unlimited speed on some roads
If you follow the government line that speed kills the Germans should have far more casualties. What kills is bad driving and poor roads. Speed has been picked on because it is an easy target to measure and makes the government look like they are doing something In reality if driver training was increased and roads were improved deaths on our roads would go down but this will cost money and Gordon wouldn’t like that Des

By the way Des - totally agree and very well put!!!

[jwalker]

Originally Posted by MadMat

....campaigner/tree hugger' types to allow that, probably the same people who object to aircraft overflying their village, or wind turbines.

That's a bit presumtuous, Mr Yorke.