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Old 11 September 2005, 06:58   #1
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I don't know what you intend to tow with Chris, but it is a consideration. I only use 4x4's which my eco friendly mates don't like at all. The cobra would be considerably heavier than my rig and Meva is a long haul for you. As you are probably aware, even if your trailer brakes are in perfect fettle (which is rare) once dipped in the briney and a weeks lying around in sunny Cornwall. They won't be so good. Therefore, the tow vehicle weight becomes crucial. The missus' X5 has brakes that would slow the Queen Mary and I'm glad of that at times.
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I don't know what you intend to tow with Chris, but it is a consideration. I only use 4x4's which my eco friendly mates don't like at all. The cobra would be considerably heavier than my rig and Meva is a long haul for you. As you are probably aware, even if your trailer brakes are in perfect fettle (which is rare) once dipped in the briney and a weeks lying around in sunny Cornwall. They won't be so good. Therefore, the tow vehicle weight becomes crucial. The missus' X5 has brakes that would slow the Queen Mary and I'm glad of that at times.
we have a td5 disco for towing the boats and caravan, the picton is lighter than my other boat so towing wont be a problem. i will probably tow with the 740 as well if i am going to a place with a good slipway as the disco is a bit gutless on a run

as a separate question does anyone know of the weight of a cobra, i asked dave picton and he didnt know!!!!!!!!

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we have a td5 disco for towing the boats and caravan, the picton is lighter than my other boat so towing wont be a problem. i will probably tow with the 740 as well if i am going to a place with a good slipway as the disco is a bit gutless on a run

as a separate question does anyone know of the weight of a cobra, i asked dave picton and he didnt know!!!!!!!!

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Is the disco an automatic??? Having said that the one I had was a later model and the chip had been remapped - people get great results from a smart box - gives quite a power boost.

I suspect he didn't know because the boats can vary so much depending on layout!!!

The ONLY real answer would be a weighbridge but I wouldn't worry too much - the Discovery can legally tow 3500kgs so it wont be over that - epesecially with a single engine!!!
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Is the disco an automatic??? Having said that the one I had was a later model and the chip had been remapped - people get great results from a smart box - gives quite a power boost.

I suspect he didn't know because the boats can vary so much depending on layout!!!

The ONLY real answer would be a weighbridge but I wouldn't worry too much - the Discovery can legally tow 3500kgs so it wont be over that - epesecially with a single engine!!!

funny you should say about chipping, the td5 goes from 136 hp in auto version to 170 with chipping and 200 with an intercooler change as well, which is very tempting. yes is auto cos is the mrs car really, mind you so is mine.

anyone got a smart box for sale i can fit to my disco, prefer the inline ones you can just fit and remove so i can see the difference. On a trip to cornwall this year i was making my way up one of the drags of a hill at my 40 mph as we have a large caravan and the mrs insists on taking the house with us and one of those porsche 4x4 things went by with a huge caravan on it doing in excess of 80 plus up this huge hill, was very jealous, anyone got a porsche 4x4 going cheap?
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funny you should say about chipping, the td5 goes from 136 hp in auto version to 170 with chipping and 200 with an intercooler change as well, which is very tempting. yes is auto cos is the mrs car really, mind you so is mine.

anyone got a smart box for sale i can fit to my disco, prefer the inline ones you can just fit and remove so i can see the difference. On a trip to cornwall this year i was making my way up one of the drags of a hill at my 40 mph as we have a large caravan and the mrs insists on taking the house with us and one of those porsche 4x4 things went by with a huge caravan on it doing in excess of 80 plus up this huge hill, was very jealous, anyone got a porsche 4x4 going cheap?
The difference is at LOW speeds your Discovery would pull a lorry up the side of a mountain - the Porker wouldn't have a hope!!!

People nearly always forget low down torque is very different to high speed power - an old Scammell for example could pull a FAR heavier load than a Merc powerliner at low speeds but on motorways it is a different game altogether!!!
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funny you should say about chipping, the td5 goes from 136 hp in auto version to 170 with chipping and 200 with an intercooler change as well, which is very tempting. yes is auto cos is the mrs car really, mind you so is mine.

anyone got a smart box for sale i can fit to my disco, prefer the inline ones you can just fit and remove so i can see the difference. On a trip to cornwall this year i was making my way up one of the drags of a hill at my 40 mph as we have a large caravan and the mrs insists on taking the house with us and one of those porsche 4x4 things went by with a huge caravan on it doing in excess of 80 plus up this huge hill, was very jealous, anyone got a porsche 4x4 going cheap?
Try a diesel Range Rover, it has a 192bhp BMW lump in it. Heaps cheaper than a Cayenne.
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my disco td5 engine is a bmw unit, i wonder if the engine is the same in the range rover but just chipped up a bit, i think i will investigate

anyway torque is no good when horses are available, my last car was 370 hp and the mrs's landy 136 hp and used the landy for towing......mad or what. i must admit landrovers are ok but a bit gutless for big towing and towing at speed
the amount of normal cars that over take me towing caravans similar to mine up long hills kills me..perhaps if i can put the opti in the landy it might fair better
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my disco td5 engine is a bmw unit, i wonder if the engine is the same in the range rover but just chipped up a bit, i think i will investigate

anyway torque is no good when horses are available, my last car was 370 hp and the mrs's landy 136 hp and used the landy for towing......mad or what. i must admit landrovers are ok but a bit gutless for big towing and towing at speed
the amount of normal cars that over take me towing caravans similar to mine up long hills kills me..perhaps if i can put the opti in the landy it might fair better
The TD5 is NOT a BMW unit!!!

You still don't seem to get the HP/torque thing - my mates Ferrari is over 400hp - a Scammel Explorer is about 120hp - the Scammel can pull 2 loaded 38 ton lorries up a 1 in 3 hill - don't think the ferrari would quite manage that!!!
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The TD5 is NOT a BMW unit!!!

You still don't seem to get the HP/torque thing - my mates Ferrari is over 400hp - a Scammel Explorer is about 120hp - the Scammel can pull 2 loaded 38 ton lorries up a 1 in 3 hill - don't think the ferrari would quite manage that!!!
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I DID ask him to fit one so I could could tow my RIB - he was NOT amused!!!
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