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Old 13 September 2005, 03:44   #11
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Sorry Chris, but the TD5 has a Land Rover lump in it and it's not in the same league as the BMW unit. Codders is right, torque is the quay(). I have a Mitsubishi L200 which is only 113 bhp but with lowish gearing and decent torque it drags my Rib around as if it weren't there. A Range or a Landcruiser would be good. Don't bother chipping the Disco Queen.
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This is a completely new engine. It's codename is Storm but the vehicles are labeled "Td5". (Why, if they had such a nice name?)

No, it's not an BMW engine, but an Rover design and, as it was almost finished when BMW took over, they agreed to continue work to fit it in Landrovers. It's an 5-cylinder engine, 2498 cc displacement, designed for 4x4 use. It has 300 Nm(manual box)/232 lb-ft of torque at 1950 rpm and 136bhp at 4200 rpm. Those numbers differ considerably on the Defender range, I'm still trying to find out what causes this. It revs to a governed load speed of 4850 rpm (5460 max possible rpm) which is nice for fast driving.

some one had told me it was a bmw unit and i beleived them but looking on the web i found out the truth, codders is right as are the others putting me right, cheers guys, i guess if it is a true landy unit that is why it is so gutless, i have had shoguns 3500, 3 landys, 200,300 and td5, for the mrs and yes they have a reasonable amount torque but as far as guts on the road the landys are just not there for some reason. in my cars i always have v8's with huge torque and hp so power is never an issue but the landy is used for towing but is always a bit of a wet rag in my view. yes some low down pulling power but i also have a low speed box if needed for pulling heavy lumps outof the water but it is a gutless lump on the motorway when doing 60 with a boat or a caravan on the back and you get to a hill. Just my personal view based on experience and watching mondeo diesels etc pass me up hills. I am rather tempted to swap it for an amazon or rangerover 4.6 if i cant squeeze a bit more out of the damn thing. Is a shame as it is an es model with every extra imaginable.

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This is a completely new engine. It's codename is Storm but the vehicles are labeled "Td5". (Why, if they had such a nice name?)

No, it's not an BMW engine, but an Rover design and, as it was almost finished when BMW took over, they agreed to continue work to fit it in Landrovers. It's an 5-cylinder engine, 2498 cc displacement, designed for 4x4 use. It has 300 Nm(manual box)/232 lb-ft of torque at 1950 rpm and 136bhp at 4200 rpm. Those numbers differ considerably on the Defender range, I'm still trying to find out what causes this. It revs to a governed load speed of 4850 rpm (5460 max possible rpm) which is nice for fast driving.

some one had told me it was a bmw unit and i beleived them but looking on the web i found out the truth, codders is right as are the others putting me right, cheers guys, i guess if it is a true landy unit that is why it is so gutless, i have had shoguns 3500, 3 landys, 200,300 and td5, for the mrs and yes they have a reasonable amount torque but as far as guts on the road the landys are just not there for some reason. in my cars i always have v8's with huge torque and hp so power is never an issue but the landy is used for towing but is always a bit of a wet rag in my view. yes some low down pulling power but i also have a low speed box if needed for pulling heavy lumps outof the water but it is a gutless lump on the motorway when doing 60 with a boat or a caravan on the back and you get to a hill. Just my personal view based on experience and watching mondeo diesels etc pass me up hills. I am rather tempted to swap it for an amazon or rangerover 4.6 if i cant squeeze a bit more out of the damn thing. Is a shame as it is an es model with every extra imaginable.

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I may be way out here, but are you sure the turbo is working as it should, they are gutless but not that bad.
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should set up a different thread here

yep turbo is fine i think but you cant rolling road these things cos of perm 4 wheel drive. none of my landys have been very exciting and this is by far better than the 200/300 models as it tows tons better, but is still dissappointing. i need more horses and torque
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My brother in law has chipped his 2004 defender & it scares me now!
It has plenty of guts, accelerates up steep hills no probs
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Not sure whether this would apply to all these high-tech diesels, but I bought an EGR blanking plate for my L200 and blanked off the EGR valve. It improved the thing no end. No black smoke, crisper acceleration and slightly more economical. The EGR valve is a silly bit of kit which draws off exhaust gas and reintroduces it in the the air induction pipe. Which means that the engine is trying to burn exhaust fumes rather than fresh air. It's done to meet Jap emission laws.
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If you want to be really scared................
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If you want to be really scared................
Have I seen the silver one smokin' around in Falmouth?
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Not this particular one but I know there is one in Falmouth
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Yep Jap stuff always scares me!
But going fast in a defender which is just a bit on the agricultural side, that scares me too!
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